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Yeah that’s a date that should have been easy to guess in hindsight.

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Why you got to take it away from me?

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I’m not…kudos to you for thinking of it before me.

I guessed why after it was announced. You did this ahead of time.

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You sure put lot on me - none of which was true (He has been my president the moment he was sworn in. And except for the times he tried to tell me my leader was actually the Israel prime minister because i am a American Jew - He has always been my President. Just not a very good one).

Its amazing that you think leadership style, communication, discussion with the American public, and being the voice to Americans is somehow not a important part of being President. that amazes me.

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My apologies. Collective “you” then.

I’ll fix it.

No, I don’t think it’s that important.

ETA - There, all better. Again my apologies.

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No need to fix it. I hear you.
We disagree.

Right now - Many of my friends who only yesterday were agreeing with me that we need to start discussing a end date, what we can do during that time, and what we can do to prepare for next time without shutting down the Government are not flipping over the idea that we should all go back to work by Easter.

Reason? I know you think its because Trump said it, but it not. Its because he just throws in out there without really explaining it or talking to the people.

Every read the book “good to great”. It discusses how good leaders explain what they want and what they are going to do and explain to those under them how to do it.
a GREAT leader explains what the issue is, what the options are, and why they selected a particular solution and then explain to those under what they need.

I wish Trump was a GREAT leader.

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How do you know they don’t agree with him? I do, although I’m also listening to the lab coats.

He confirms my bias. :wink:

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Me too. Most aren’t.

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Any of you millennials ever hear of parents taking their kids to play with a kid who had chicken pox so their kids would catch it?

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Why are you making me feel old?

I’m probably in the last generation where they did that.

And I got ‘em all…well by all I mean both kinds of measles and chicken pox.

The pox were ok. I got them first of all my brothers…each had a successively worse case than me.

The nine days measles sucked…nine days in the summer with the curtains drawn and no TV because my eyes couldn’t take the light.

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If we all try to play the game where we stay in lock down, we’d have to isolate the nation and it’s people for months, and we’d have no economy left, barely any jobs at all, and no food to speak of. The virus will find tens of millions of us, eventually, even if we are careful and try to mitigate the spread. Our most vulnerable people are the ones who need to lock themselves down, and do all they can to avoid catching the virus until we have the vaccine.

The rest of us healthy people need to be mitigating the spread of the virus, to greatly slow down the spread. This way our hospitals staff, and use of facilities and medical supplies can keep up. People will catch the flu, and recover, and then be immune

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Yeah sure, but that only works cuz mom and dad, and their coworkers already have those childhood diseases and are immune. You get you kids infected with the Wuhan virus, and you’ll catch it too, and then the entire house is on lock down for two weeks. And hopefully no one gets sick enough to need a hospital bed.

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It was redneck epidemiology

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who said anything about coming up with it? In true lib fassion, yiou can’t even agree to agree if its with trump. sad.

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I agree not to mention even during the lockdown in NYC just watching video after video of people packed on subways there not giving two ■■■■■■ it’s not going to stop like that. Best way until they can get an instant result test or vaccine is to take care/keep isolated the elderly or those with a precondition with a lung disease. If those two were away from the equation the vast majority would experience symptoms of the flu and it would go away quicker.

Imagine a 30-40% unemployment rate for a prolonged period in places like NYC and Chicago it would be mayhem, murders, robberies, it would at best resemble the movie the Purge.

And how can they lock down the entire population which would help, like they did in China? No one was allowed to leave Wuhan and they were using strong handed methods that goes against our freedoms in a way 10x worse than the patriot act imagined. Occasionally I’ll here someone on the media bragging about how China did a good job in flattening the curve which they did, but they don’t follow up showing how they did it with people being dragged away to quarantine screaming and crying.

We have a free press, China don’t so we can only see a small fraction of videos leaked. This nation went into a riot when Michael Brown was killed what will they do when they see people being dragged away by the cops I can see the headlines now “Woman of color dragged away by white police man and thrown into a van”.

Not sure that would go down here as well as it would in more homogeneous societies. Imagine these instances being pumped by the media 24/7 in the U.S.

But your right we can’t just not go back to work it’s even ludicrous for people to think that is an option our whole society is based on consumption and paying bills. Without work those two things fail and so does the system.

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I saw a YouTube video the other day, from an American living in Wuhan. He lived in a gated community, because he panned the camera to their gate, which was chained and boarded up. China had locked their people into these locations, to presumably whether out the disease at home, and if they failed to survive, they’d die in place. A very pragmatic approach, something the Communist Chinese government has been known to excel at.

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One death is a tragedy. One million deaths is a statistic.

Stalin

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Yeah but a dermatologist with a lapsed medical license took it and ran with it on The Federalist.

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Huh? It worked.

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It wasn’t that widespread a practice.