Stop whining and buy a Tesla

[Samm]

@Camp

[Supreme_War_Pig]

I mean…they are talking about mechanical propulsion powered by the wind, and not sails, but still…oh my.

[Rurudyne]

That bumper sticker was on a Kia with only 17,000 miles. Think on that for a moment.

[Rurudyne]

[bigtwnvin]

The “climate czar” is an elitist scumbag. Even his Naval record is full of ■■■■■ I wouldn’t follow that turd anywhere.

[Casper_the_ghost]

This is fine if you don’t mind several months to get one. Even Lucid and Rivian, have several month waiting period to get one

[bigtwnvin]

“Wind powered cargo ship”
Tonnes displaced and propulsion for navigation and control of the vessel.
Call me skeptical but good ■■■■■■■ luck.

[tnt]

@Samm

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2023 Bolt EV: Electric Car | Chevrolet

As I said…

@Samm

And the price of your Outback starts at $45,000.

What does that have to do with the price of an EV?

And BTW, you’re wrong.

https://www.subaru.com/build/OBK.html

Don’t you have a google machine?

[tnt]

@Samm

No … It starts at $31,000. The $25,600 includes the Federal rebate.

DO you have a link? that’s not what I see.

Car and driver calls it 27.

@Samm

But on the Subaru, they are an excellent value, but don’t expect to get into a '23 EV Outback for less than $45,000.

Oh, you were talking Hybrid…yeah, that might be right.

[tnt]

@Samm

No … It starts at $31,000. The $25,600 includes the Federal rebate.

every site I see says MSRP starts at 25.6

LIke this:

https://www.kbb.com/chevrolet/bolt-ev/

[DougBH]

EVs are ok if:
You need two cars so you can take the ICE on long trips
You can charge it at your residence.
You do a lot of local travel within range

I am not in that situation so I will wait until
They build more charging stations
They significantly increase the charging speed

[Samm]

@Supreme_War_Pig

I mean…they are talking about mechanical propulsion powered by the wind, and not sails, but still…oh my.

No, they are not. Those wing sails propel the ship, they do not produce power to drive a mechanical system.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/swedish-firm-wind-powered-cargo-ships

[Samm]

@bigtwnvin

“Wind powered cargo ship”
Tonnes displaced and propulsion for navigation and control of the vessel.
Call me skeptical but good ■■■■■■■ luck.

Actually “wind assist” cargo ships have been used successfully for years.

[Samm]

@tnt

@Samm

And the price of your Outback starts at $45,000.

What does that have to do with the price of an EV?

Thats the starting price of the EV Outback or rather the Solterra, as it is called.

Subaru’s Solterra EV starts at $44,995

[Samm]

@tnt

@Samm

No … It starts at $31,000. The $25,600 includes the Federal rebate.

DO you have a link? that’s not what I see.

Car and driver calls it 27.

The link was in my post.

[zantax]

@DougBH

EVs are ok if:
You need two cars so you can take the ICE on long trips
You can charge it at your residence.
You do a lot of local travel within range

I am not in that situation so I will wait until
They build more charging stations
They significantly increase the charging speed

Problem, public charging stations are garbage and usually out of order.

[Rurudyne]

I was gonna post the “Even in the future nothing works!” scene from Spaceballs … but there’s an f-bomb.

So I’ll substitute this instead…

Spaceballs - They've gone into plaid

[Rurudyne]

@Samm

Actually “wind assist” cargo ships have been used successfully for years.

Yep. Even a little extra thrust helps with the fuel bill. My fave are kite assists.

[tnt]

DO you understand why some EVs are eligible for tax credits, and others aren’t? Sound like it’s up tot he selling company somehow? I don’t get it.

Anyway, I’m not going EV. Most I would do is hybrid, if the power is comparable to my outback.

See any pricing on that yet? I thought they were rolling out the OB hybrid next year.

[tnt]

@Samm

The link was in my post.

it is?

@Samm

No … It starts at $31,000. The $25,600 includes the Federal rebate.

But on the Subaru, they are an excellent value, but don’t expect to get into a '23 EV Outback for less than $45,000.

I don’t see it.