Stop whining and buy a Tesla

[gooddad409]

@Striker840

@FreeAndClear

@GWH

@FreeAndClear

Right more conditions to blame the “dumbass.” More leases but with restrictions? No good?

The dumbassery is agenda driven. They want to force the green new deal by driving up energy costs. Plain as the nose on your face.

Right that’s the direction in which people are pointing in order to cast blame. When Gas prices crossed four dollars a gallon in some places in in 2018 and 2019 the green new deal was deader than dead.

Yes it’s crazy higher now. But that’s not the point. There is no doubt that environmentalist policies are contributing to the increase but so is a plethora of other factors which are ignored for some reason

You are using California gas prices, I don’t remember seeing anything near 4 a gallon here in Ohio during that timeframe.

Not in TN either. Gas was 1.85 on election day 2020.

It’s up over 100 percent under Brandon.

[gooddad409]

@RTchoke

@hwyflier

Stop whining and buy a Tesla isn’t bad advice. Solution to a lot of things really.

Brandon is a idiot and so are the woke socialists who are trying to force these cars on us.

I will not be dictated to and will not buy a tesla or any other EV.

My full size car is comfortable and it is not range limited like the EV’s.

I can drive cross country with only a 5 minute gas stop every 400 miles or so.

[GWH]

I would say you can’t use anything after Rona because of people staying home/lesser demand.

[Rurudyne]

Also, adding millions of pure electric cars to a power grid adds a whole nuance to the term rolling blackout.

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

And displays a lack of further investment.

Look, Alaska may be attractive in the future but it just isn’t now.

Investment does not put oil into the ground. Prudhoe was an anomaly. No other field on the North Slope comes close. But it is stupid to think that the reason that production is down, is because investment is not taking place.

With the breakeven point of Alaskan oil being so high compared to other alternatives, why would YOU invest capital in it?

But they are investing in it. They were even when the price of crude was below $40. They didn’t even suspend investment when oil was $22 in 1997. You can’t have it both ways. Either the oil companies are money hungry profiteers, or they are not. They have to look to the future more than nearly any other enterprise because the time and effort required to find, develop and produce oil is so long. You said “Alaska may be attractive in the future but it just isn’t now.” If not now, when? We have heard that line from anti-oil people for decades up here. (That has been one of the main arguments used to prevent opening up ANWR 1002 to oil exploration and development.) But if they don’t continue to move forward, there will be no future.

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

But they are investing in it.

Hmm, I’m not seeing any evidence of them investing. Like I said, no majors bid last time around.

They were even when the price of crude was below $40. They didn’t even suspend investment when oil was $22 in 1997.

You’re just not seeing it. Back in 1997, lower cost alternatives didn’t exist so Alaska was competitive. The shale revolution didn’t happen until ten years later. The cost of deepwater was still high. But now we have unconventionals AND deepwater is low cost so Alaska is not competitive.

You said “Alaska may be attractive in the future but it just isn’t now.” If not now, when?

Capital discipline rules in the oil and gas industry today. That is the refrain from all the CEOs so limited capital means you will choose the most profitable areas to invest. Are you thinking Alaska is more profitable than the Permian or Guyana (deepwater)? Again, where would YOU invest?

Note also my direct quotes talking about companies not trusting prices will remain high and also sticking to the capital plans already approved by boards. You can’t just change these things so quickly.

[Samm]

The investment is ongoing. It has not stopped in 55 or more years.

If anyone is not seeing it, it’s you.

[gooddad409]

@GWH

I would say you can’t use anything after Rona because of people staying home/lesser demand.

The Rona didn’t stop the increases once Brandon was on board.

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

The investment is ongoing. It has not stopped in 55 or more years.

If anyone is not seeing it, it’s you.

Of course there is continual investment in Alaska. I didn’t say there was none. Hang your hat on that, I guess. Good luck.

[JayJay]

@Rurudyne

Btw, practical and safe hydrogen storage and therefore hydrogen power has been possible for decades but the federal government will not let mere citizens buy or sell lithium 6 hydride (deuteride? can’t recall which).

Instead they are pushing battery pipe dreams.

If we perfect titanium dioxide solar cells then hydrogen production becomes cost effective and not reliant on fossil fuels.

Titanium dioxide comes easily from beach sand.

But ultimately electric cars aren’t the solution…because they are still cars.

Still 2 tons of mass whose main purpose (usually is to ferry a single person a relatively short distance.

Dumb and wasteful form of transport…but FREEDOM BABY!

[JayJay]

@Rurudyne

High performance can come in many forms, including making environmentalists cry.

I miss the old days where there were threads where people talked about spilling oil on the ground just to make the Libs on the board cry.

Those were the days.

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

The investment is ongoing. It has not stopped in 55 or more years.

If anyone is not seeing it, it’s you.

Of course there is continual investment in Alaska. I didn’t say there was none. Hang your hat on that, I guess. Good luck.

Really?

Did you or did you not say this:

@Borgia_dude

Hmm, I’m not seeing any evidence of them investing.

[Striker840]

@JayJay

@Rurudyne

Btw, practical and safe hydrogen storage and therefore hydrogen power has been possible for decades but the federal government will not let mere citizens buy or sell lithium 6 hydride (deuteride? can’t recall which).

Instead they are pushing battery pipe dreams.

If we perfect titanium dioxide solar cells then hydrogen production becomes cost effective and not reliant on fossil fuels.

Titanium dioxide comes easily from beach sand.

But ultimately electric cars aren’t the solution…because they are still cars.

Still 2 tons of mass whose main purpose (usually is to ferry a single person a relatively short distance.

Dumb and wasteful form of transport…but FREEDOM BABY!

Not all of us have the luxury of living in an area where mass transit is a viable option.

[Rurudyne]

Efficiency is not the end all be all of life.

Indeed, waste or extravagance are as natural and as good byproducts of Liberty just as frugality or want are. Something that grows of its own accord which can survive because it is in accordance with nature is better than another thing that seeks perfection through regimentation and cannot survive as a result. To claim to desire to have efficient and equitable distribution of resources managed by government or something in government’s place is a game of deceit played by the wretched and wicked on those useful idiots who drool over impossibilities dangled in their faces … bread and circuses for the bad managed by the worst.

Socialism fails not strictly because of limited resources (though it will always run out of both other people’s money while money is more tangible and in the end exhaust any belief and hope that fictions are somehow fungible) but because of the ultimately debased humanity of those trying to call the dance and the wickedness of those who delude themselves with dreams entitlement and collectivist weal.

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

The investment is ongoing. It has not stopped in 55 or more years.

If anyone is not seeing it, it’s you.

Of course there is continual investment in Alaska. I didn’t say there was none. Hang your hat on that, I guess. Good luck.

Really?

Did you or did you not say this:

@Borgia_dude

Hmm, I’m not seeing any evidence of them investing.

I am slain, good sir!

[Rurudyne]

Good point.

For mass transit to work you really need more than just high population density, you need constricted geography so that most of your territory can be serviced with minimal infrastructure. With sufficiently constricted geography so everything is easily in reach you don’t even need high population density … but of course in those more extreme instances people can often walk.

But where everything gets spread out — which is most of the United States — the best mass transit option is going to be buses, which can ape some of the functionality of cars by being able to be actually rerouted to meet shifting demands (where light rail simply cannot be … because rails).

[JayJay]

Actually the exact opposite of everything you said is true.

The most wasteful organisms are the most fragile.

Especially when they butt up against boundary conditions.

Entropy is our biggest problem as a society right now.

[TheRedComet]

Unfortunately (or fortunately because I love driving) there are many of us who live in parts of the country where mass transit will never be economically viable.

My entire county has less people living in it than the average New York high rise apartment building.

[TheRedComet]

Same here. I drive 25 miles one way for work.

I honestly believe there are more broke down Chevrolet trucks in my county than there are people at this point.

[Rurudyne]

It may be truly said that so-called “progressives” are like a through the looking glass version of Scrooge, for now that welfare programs are so posh and entitled, humanity is once again surrendered to be lookout of paid professionals who take by force of law, making everyone to give at the office.

The fragile are wasteful? Do you not realize the good that can come from how individuals respond to people being in want? Or are you so blinded by that sad ideology that would make Ahab a hero of the Left if only he’d taken Naboth’s vineyard for a vegetable patch to feed Samaria’s poor?