Still a bit confused on the whole abortion/constitution issue?

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

You keep digging this weird hole.

The hole is entirely yours.

Nah.

I wasn’t the one who claimed science doesn’t determine viability. You did. And you are utterly incorrect.

Do you know how much infant mortality has improved in the last 100 years? How did it improve? Science!

[johnwk2]

I’m still waiting for that link confirming your notion that it is not a criminal offense to kill a baby in every state under federalism, our Constitution’s big-tent system.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

@PurpnGold

You keep digging this weird hole.

The hole is entirely yours.

Nah.

I wasn’t the one who claimed science doesn’t determine viability. You did. And you are utterly incorrect.

Do you know how much infant mortality has improved in the last 100 years? How did it improve? Science!

I’m not incorrect. Everything I have posted on the subject is verifiable. The only science that maters in respect to the life of an unborn child is biology. Doctors learning how to do new things with new tools does not change the fact that abortions kill human life. That’s what this discussion is about. Everything else is just a distraction.

Stay in your hole if you want to. It suits you.

[Piper]

This woman is a medical doctor.

Dem witness tells House committee men can get pregnant, have abortions

“Do you believe that men can become pregnant and have abortions?” Bishop asked.

“Yes,” Arrambide replied.

The remarks from Arrambide followed a tense exchange between Bishop and Dr. Yashica Robinson, another Democrat witness, after he similarly asked her to define “woman.”

[Guvnah]

The level of medical and biological lib ignorance being spouted in this thread would be comical if it weren’t so sad.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

Doctors learning how to do new things with new tools does not change the fact that abortions kill human life. That’s what this discussion is about. Everything else is just a distraction.

This discussion is not just about that. It’s about how to restrict and punish women and doctors who want/need an abortion.

We could admit all day long that abortion “kills a human life”… but what is the punishment for such acts is the ultimate question. Can’t have effective laws without enforcement.

[PurpnGold]

@Guvnah

The level of medical and biological lib ignorance being spouted in this thread would be comical if it weren’t so sad.

You clearly haven’t follow the thread. What you see as biology is not so… it’s morality. Life beginning at conception is morality, not science.

We are all just really moving up and down the human development lifecycle trying to determine the place in human development where a fetus is be considered a person and thus have rights protected.

I just stick with bodily autonomy. A woman should have a regarding her own body. The state should not force medical decisions on her. Just like the state can’t you or I to give our kidney to our kids or anyone else.

[RTchoke]

@Piper

This woman is a medical doctor.

Dem witness tells House committee men can get pregnant, have abortions | Fox News

“Do you believe that men can become pregnant and have abortions?” Bishop asked.

“Yes,” Arrambide replied.

The remarks from Arrambide followed a tense exchange between Bishop and Dr. Yashica Robinson, another Democrat witness, after he similarly asked her to define “woman.”

I don’t think she is a doctor I think she is an activist who was on a panel with some doctors.

That, however, does not excuse the vile crap spewing from her mouth. Plus, she can’t answer a question, she can only parrot her one talking point. Very lame debating style, but I expect nothing more from people like her.

[Piper]

@RTchoke

I don’t think she is a doctor I think she is an activist who was on a panel with some doctors.

That, however, does not excuse the vile crap spewing from her mouth. Plus, she can’t answer a question, she can only parrot her one talking point. Very lame debating style, but I expect nothing more from people like her.

That article was wrong then.

“Dr. Robinson, I noticed in your written testimony you said that you use she/her pronouns. You’re a medical doctor – what is a woman?” Bishop asked Robinson, an OBGYN and board member with Physicians for Reproductive Health."

Fox News called several medical facilities and asked if they knew of any men who had gotten pregnant. They only heard back from one that couldn’t answer their question. LOL

[RTchoke]

They are taling about 2 different people. The crazy one pictured is the activist.

[Piper]

@RTchoke

They are taling about 2 different people. The crazy one pictured is the activist.

I see. Thanks RT

[RTchoke]

That whole scenario was confusing. Doctors should know better.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@Samm

Doctors learning how to do new things with new tools does not change the fact that abortions kill human life. That’s what this discussion is about. Everything else is just a distraction.

This discussion is not just about that. It’s about how to restrict and punish women and doctors who want/need an abortion.

We could admit all day long that abortion “kills a human life”… but what is the punishment for such acts is the ultimate question. Can’t have effective laws without enforcement.

Ah, back to the “you can’t rationalize being against abortion if you don’t have an opinion on punishment for abortionists” argument.

Don’t you ever get tired of recycling discredited arguments?

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

I just stick with bodily autonomy. A woman should have a regarding her own body. The state should not force medical decisions on her. Just like the state can’t you or I to give our kidney to our kids or anyone else.

We have established (scientifically, i.e. biology) that the fetus is entirely separate from the body of the mother. Yes, it is inside her body and draws sustenance from it, but it is not one of her body parts. So your kidney comparison is ridiculous.

And in almost no instance is an abortion done as a medical procedure for treatment of the mother. If the mother’s permanent health or life is in jeopardy, you won’t find but a miniscule number of people who will argue that her life does not take precedents over that of her unborn baby. So put that nonsense in the dust bin with the rest of your specious arguments.

[Samm]

@Piper

@RTchoke

I don’t think she is a doctor I think she is an activist who was on a panel with some doctors.

That, however, does not excuse the vile crap spewing from her mouth. Plus, she can’t answer a question, she can only parrot her one talking point. Very lame debating style, but I expect nothing more from people like her.

That article was wrong then.

“Dr. Robinson, I noticed in your written testimony you said that you use she/her pronouns. You’re a medical doctor – what is a woman?” Bishop asked Robinson, an OBGYN and board member with Physicians for Reproductive Health."

Fox News called several medical facilities and asked if they knew of any men who had gotten pregnant. They only heard back from one that couldn’t answer their question. LOL

Don’t forget, Jill Biden is a doctor too. (One of the best according to Whoopy Goldberg. )

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

We have established (scientifically, i.e. biology) that the fetus is entirely separate from the body of the mother. Yes, it is inside her body and draws sustenance from it, but it is not one of her body parts. So your kidney comparison is ridiculous.

No.

Can the state force you to give your kidney to your kid? If not, why?

[Samm]

If you were arguing against forced abortions, you might have a point. But you’re not.

[Guvnah]

@PurpnGold

You clearly haven’t follow the thread. What you see as biology is not so… it’s morality. Life beginning at conception is morality, not science.

Abject ignorance on your part.

Go pester someone else.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

If you were arguing against forced abortions, you might have a point. But you’re not.

I am. I don’t think the state should force you to birth a fetus.

[PurpnGold]

@Guvnah

@PurpnGold

You clearly haven’t follow the thread. What you see as biology is not so… it’s morality. Life beginning at conception is morality, not science.

Abject ignorance on your part.

Go pester someone else.

Projection.

Life at conception is morality… religious. Judaism thinks life begins at first breath, for example.

Not science.