State Dept. blows up G-7 statement

Are you aware that the naming protocol was changed. I think it was in 2015, but I’m not sure.

Spanish flu likely did not originate in Spain.

interesting but you would agree tangental to my point. the point is that the naming convention is a century if not more old. and upending such a convention simply because Trump spoke words is a number of things each of them bad. you could say it’s ignorant if the person attacking does not realize the thing existed long before trumps male DNA component swam up the birth canal. you could say that if they weren’t ignorant of that fact but used it to attack President Trump under false pretense that it is deliberately deceitful. that anyone doing so is estimating that their reader or listener is an ignorant fool who won’t know any better. As I said you can garner a number of things from the current angle Trump’s foes are using.

The tradition was not upended when Trump spoke.

The tradition was changed in 2015.

And people need to stop pretending that it’s not clear why Trump is doing this and it has nothing to do with “upholding traditions”.

Everyone knows this isn’t true…Trump supporter or not.

Everyone knows Trump is providing a convenient scapegoat for people to hate as a way to cover up our own sluggish response.

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our response was not sluggish. in fact he got called a xenophobe and racist because he closed of travel to and from china. the national response level was better than obama’s WRT the two epidemics that occurred during his administration; with the following exceptions: for some reason the Obama administration chose not restock expendable epidemic supplies such as masks, face shields, gloves and tyvek suits. other than that the response plan and testing system was tailored to small scale testing rather than the large scale testing now needed. so this administration had to spin that up and had to restructure the response plan and task organization for a nation wide event.

states and cities did have sluggish responses because for example NYC did not requisition additional ventilators when it was considering it a few years ago and instead decided to develop a plan to ration what they had on hand. then when this hit they cried about the federal govt not having ventilators on hand. that was not part of the federal plan. But Trump did put out a call for increased production and modification of suitable devices into the type of ventilator needed. as to testing you can’t make a test for a disease no one had heard of until you have heard of it. even then making and assessing the initial test kits let alone full on mass production takes a bit of time. thanks to this emergency though that is changing the labs can now have test kits much quicker than even possible 8 months ago… and even so the idiots calling for 100 percent testing are woefully ignorant.

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if i recall correctly the last administration did not even call a national emergency until 10K people had already died.

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Prepping the battle space.

It’s accurate.

The feds addressed none of the above until mid-March…a entire month later than they could have.

Closing travel from China (incompletely, btw) was a step, but by itself was a woefully insufficient response.

So…why the month-long delay with further additional steps? Why the national health emergency declared mid-March instead of right when the travel ban from China was initiated?

why did the previous admin wait until 10K died before declaring an emergency? where were the cries of sluggish response then?

Trump was briefed on COVID 19 12/22/19 and he did nothing to prepare.

That’s the truth.

Wake up.

off by a factor of 10. it was 1000 deaths.

The MAGA virus

He should have shut the country down on 1 January.

Bastard!

Please tell me you aren’t serious.

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Our hospital system wasn’t overwhelmed in 2009-10.

We had proven treatment protocols that allowed our emergency systems to be overtaxed.

Unlike all of you, I don’t have the memory of a gnat. 2009-10 wasn’t an age and an age ago.

Also while Obama did not declare a national health emergency, he DID call a public health emergency within two days of the first cases OVERALL being diagnosed…that activated more activity than has happened in the first three months here.

wasn’t sure if i was conflating SARS with MERS. so yeah. i don’t often go looking every detail up. i go from memory. i haz one. and it works (most of the time.) someone with a memory is a problem for people whose position changes on any topic depending on who is in or out of power in washington. be they reporters, pundits, comentators , politicians or forum denizens.

Why would he do that?

He should have been stockpiling test kits, masks, ventilators, and making sure the states had hospital bed plan etc…

Right! And creating panic! Shut it down!

How would buying masks and ventilators create a panic? It would actually do the opposite - we could point to our leadership and say “we are prepared.”

Would you rather be unprepared and living in ignorance, or prepared and acknowledge what might be coming?

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