Biden had the stones to get us out of that hell hole. If after 20 years the Afghanis cant get their ■■■■ together, why should we care? I though the MAGA people would be happy that we are pulling out… instead it appears that they are cheering the Taliban. Strange times.
Did the US presence in Afghanistan train civilian militias and arm all the citizens who wanted to keep their newfound freedoms? Or did the only train the military class and expect the citizens to trust their safely to professional soldiers and police. They had 20 years to train citizens in defense against Islamists. What did they do?
You do understand that we can not dictate who gets trained and to what level. Everything that has been done is withing UN standards with the approval of the Afghanistan government. It was never our call who we trained and armed. We trained a army of 300K and gave them the tools they need. It is not the fault of the US that many of these forces are laying down instead of fighting for their country.
If western values were so popular, then why is a well-equiped army of 300,000 surrendering to 75,000 Taliban fighters?
The Soviets also tried impose foreign ideas, and killed a million Afghans before they left. The only way they could have controlled the country was to kill or deport every Afghan. That was the approach the Stalin had used to crush smaller examples of guerilla warfare.
There was no military class in Afghanistan, the issue is the people who run the government and their friends fleeced America for their money over 100,000 “Ghost” privates that never existed simply on the rolls to fleece money.
no one is dying in a ditch for a government that doesn’t care about them, there is no unity in Afghanistan they are loyal to their families, tribe, region.
What bothered me the most is every few months we would get a report that one of theirs had shot one or more of ours. And yet we hung in there. And tried to do our best in spite of working with one of the most corrupt governments in the world.