Starting to See Why Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez So Frightens Conservatives


#1179

I agree, but I am not sure it is fair to extrapolate from one example given in discussion to a general principle. I thought about how to phrase my response to make the point that I was not trying to ban points of view I disagree with. I think it is fairly harsh to attribute such nefariousness to anyone.


#1180

Help me out here. I am trying to find the specific AOC quote in its context. All I can find is someone telling her to be in the cheap seats and her twitter response that people who can only afford the cheap seats still deserve a voice.

I am wondering what the interaction was that leads to this conclusion about AOC.

Her comment on being consigned to the cheap seats seems reasonable to me.


#1181

i am not talking about the “libs here” per your point i mostly agree.

i am talking about the media. of course palin had moments of sounding dumb. of course AOC does too. difference is media at large made it their mission to point them out and help create those moments for palin, while they ignore or barely touch Cortez

for instance, why hasnt anyone cornered AOC on various supreme court case questions yet?

when she is unsure of herself or stumbles why no stern over the glasses admonisment a la Charlie gibson?


#1182

Someone who was running to sit one step away from a President who was known to have heart problems should be subjected to closer scrutiny than a first term Congressperson from New York City doncha think?

The only reason Ocasio-Cortez is getting all this publicity is because the CEC decided she looked like a punching dummy only to learn she would punch back.

She should get as much coverage as stupid Congresspeople like Louis Gohmert – who gets a lot of play on progressive sites for his idiocy – but never gets called out by the mainstream media. Another reasonable comparison would be the coverage of Palin as Governor of Alaska.

The Vice President is an entirely different ballgame.


#1183

I just found AOC’s Twitter comment. You are right, that was a cheap shot. Definitely a gaffe.

What’s the appropriate response? Censure? Impeachment? Defenestration?

If anyone thought it important to prove that AOC is not perfect, you’ve proven that point.


#1184

Oh no. Trust me. Palin is light years dumber than AOC is.


#1185

The media didn’t have to “try” to do anything with Palin. Her word salads and streams of consciousness made her look dumb all on their own.


#1186

Because she’s not running to be VP of the US right now?

And “stern over the glasses admonishment?” Oh please, Palin was no victim as the right-wing tried to paint her during that time. She was a virtually unknown politician from Alaska on the R ticket to be VP, whose rise to fame included being a small town mayor and a short-term governor.

AOC is a House representative. Not running for national office right now. So it shouldn’t need to be explained why the two haven’t faced the same media rounds. The difference shouldn’t need to be explained.


#1187

My bad…


#1188

But that’s exactly what she wants to do, according to her campaign website which is from where I took that quote.


#1189

Link please.


#1190

Expand the gun control / assault weapons ban section.

It’s the 7th or 8th paragraph in that section. You know, for someone who loves the 2nd amendment so much.


#1191

Investment requires capital.


#1192

I’m calling it now:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the first great Revolutionary after the death of Fidel Castro.

Viva La Loca! Que Viva!


#1193

If I remember right they took a plea deal to a not very significant charge because the prosecution was pretty incompetent. They bungled the evidence pretty badly, in fact I think they lost basically all the physical evidence.

Anyway, the people who claim she laughed about getting him off almost certainly never listened to the interview.


#1194

You are right about lobbying and I don’t agree. Issue specific bans are slippery slope to be avoided. I would like to see reductions of the influence of money in politics that apply across the board and thus avoid the issue of bias.

But I don’t see a 2A issue here at all. I know the NRA position is that any law that limits access to guns is an unconstitutional infringement, but my view is based on what Justice Scalia wrote in the Heller decision.

“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. . . The right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. . . Nothing in our opinion today should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools or government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

Putting aside the lobbying ban, I believe what Ocasio-Cortez is calling for as gun policy is consistent with Scalia’s guidance.

You would have a stronger case saying she is opposing the First Amendment than the Second, but that hinges on the notion that “money contributions = speech” where I believe the Supreme Court decision was flawed.


#1195

I hope not. I like her because she introduces a new element to Congress. I want to have a long conversation with her to pick at her mind.


#1196

That is a common refrain among all stripes.


#1197

Thank you. Great illustration of how far conservatives are going to build up AOC. She’s as much the CEC’s creation as anything.


#1198

The mass hysteria/mass obsessive love disorder among many Trump supporters regarding AOC is really something to behold.

Keep it guys, you’re only going to make her stronger.