Most felony arrests arise out of someone getting pulled over for speeding or running a red light? Post your source

An unarmed officer giving traffic citations wouldn’t have the authority to “catch” the murderer. And if they knew the person was a murderer, they would call it in instead of approaching the vehicle. How many toll collectors were killed last year for stopping a murderer?

Again if you can’t handle the debate resort to ad hominem and cries of “trolling”

Bro, there is no routine traffic stop. And what are you saying about @Samm. Why are you bringing in a respected forum members to this conversation?

With the current way they are structured yes. Once again you are failing to see the argument being made. The point is to make traffic stops routine and with less escalation, to save officer lives and reform how we approach crime.

I was talking to my friend @wildrose. You just called me a troll.

No I didn’t. You and rose were talking about me being a button pusher and rose’s claim of me “trolling”. Sorry if you can’t debate no need for nane calling

I did not name call you. I think you are pushing the envelope. I think you called me a troll or accused me of trolling.

I did not. I was referring to you and rose’s actions of instead of debating, calling me a troll, button pusher and comparing me to your 2 sons.

Now back to topic

Also you tried to bring @samm into this. He was not even a topic of conversation.

Me and Samm heavily debated in this thread. I was saying you are making the same mistakes he made in your debate with me on the topic. You entered right when he left

Then you shod flag it for moderation. Right now, please do not talk with me. Leave it alone. I think the mods should review the issue.

I don’t have flag rights otherwise I would.

Back on topic

@Bosun this is what I was referring to in my post

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The biggest difference is the unarmed officer becomes a walking target.

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That’s just stupid. The bad guy sitting in the car that just robbed a store, raped someone, murdered someone, or who has warrants out for them will know the unarmed cop is about to ID them and will shot them down like dogs in the street.

They will also have no idea for sure whether one of your unarmed targets is approaching them or an armed cop especially in the dark when most such stops and arrests occur.

Toll collectors are not issuing tickets or running your information hence they are not usually targeted.

Your unarmed cops would be.

You’re not making any sense. Why would you pull over in the first place if you thought you were going to be caught? Who said anything about “running their information”. Issue the citation with their name and license plate. That’s it. Traffic enforcers wouldn’t be “criminal searchers” anymore than toll collectors.

They would if cars and their lights, and uniforms were substantially different.

What’s the traffic enforcer going to do with the ID other than to write down the information for a citation? You guys again are failing to look at the context and scope change of this new enforcement and continually blurry it in the window of routine stops as they are now