Southwest Airlines workers are getting sick of the vaccine mandates

[PAmoderate37]

@Orygun

There are numerous states that don’t allow religious exemptions.

California
Maine
Mississippi
New York
Virginia

If you lived in one of those states, would you be against the school mandates?

Yes, there should be exceptions

[tnt]

@PAmoderate37

No, because they aren’t really mandates. As long as there are religious exemptions anyone can pretty much get them. You can’t questions someone’s religion. In the rare cases where someone dies from a reaction to a vaccine and the government mandated it, should the government be liable? Should that person have had a choice? Did that person just need to die so you can feel safe?

There are religious exemptions from Covid vaccine mandates as well.

[Jezcoe]

@PAmoderate37

@Jezcoe

People who are allergic to the vaccine are of course not required to be vaccinated against pertussis.

There is still a mandate in place. It protects the people who can’t get vaccinated.

So try again… argue against a pertussis vaccine mandate.

For me it’s simple choice. I’ve had it so I don’t need to force anyone else to take it. Hell, I would encourage the vast majority of people to take it…I just wouldn’t force them too. I also live right outside of a whole community who I am pretty sure no of them has taken it.

A person’s choice to not get vaccinated doesn’t just affect that individual. It can potentially affect everyone around them because they have a higher likelihood of being a disease vector.

Virus’s don’t give a crap about your freedoms.

So do we have more illness and more death because there are people whose only argument against vaccination is an “I don’t wanna!” hissyfit?

The end result of getting rid of pertussis mandates… a disease that was pretty much eliminated from this country until idiots in the 90’s and 2000’s decided that they knew better… is this… babies coughing themselves to death

Infant girl with whooping cough

So… argue against pertussis vaccine mandates.

[Jezcoe]

@PAmoderate37

As long as there are religious exemptions anyone can pretty much get them

No major religion bars vaccinations,.

The religious exemption is a made up thing.

[PAmoderate37]

@Jezcoe

So… argue against pertussis vaccine mandates.

peds.2017-4171.full.pdf

I bet I can find at least 844 parents who wish they hadn’t vaccinated their baby.

[Jezcoe]

@PAmoderate37

@Jezcoe

So… argue against pertussis vaccine mandates.

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2018/05/31/peds.2017-4171.full.pdf

I bet I can find at least 844 parents who wish they hadn’t vaccinated their baby.

Before the Pertussis vaccine over 200,000 children a year got sick and around 9,000 died.

We now see 10,000 - 40,000 case a year with deaths measuring in the dozens.

That survey of VEARS data is over a 25 year timespan.

9,000 per year vs 844 (assuming that the reported VEARS data is correct) per 25 years.

So… make an argument against pertussis mandates.

[PAmoderate37]

@Jezcoe

Before the Pertussis vaccine over 200,000 children a year got sick and around 9,000 died.

We now see 10,000 - 40,000 case a year with deaths measuring in the dozens.

That survey of VEARS data is over a 25 year timespan.

9,000 per year vs 844 (assuming that the reported VEARS data is correct) per 25 years.

So… make an argument against pertussis mandates.

I already did. You just don’t like it. Just because it’s not mandated doesn’t mean the vast majority of people won’t take it. So saying what happened before the vaccine was developed is useless.

[Jezcoe]

@PAmoderate37

@Jezcoe

Before the Pertussis vaccine over 200,000 children a year got sick and around 9,000 died.

We now see 10,000 - 40,000 case a year with deaths measuring in the dozens.

That survey of VEARS data is over a 25 year timespan.

9,000 per year vs 844 (assuming that the reported VEARS data is correct) per 25 years.

So… make an argument against pertussis mandates.

I already did. You just don’t like it. Just because it’s not mandated doesn’t mean the vast majority of people won’t take it. So saying what happened before the vaccine was developed is useless.

No… you didn’t

You think that you did… but you didn’t.

I express what it was like before the vaccine to show the seriousness of the illness… something that we seem to have forgotten because idiots have been able to make inroads into the popular culture about the safety of the vaccines and use that for fun and profit.

Not mandating pertussis vaccinations leads to more illness and more death because the decision to not vaccinate doesn’t affect just that individual. If it did… we wouldn’t have a problem.

There is no good argument against a pertussis vaccine mandate… well unless we want to accept more dead children.

[gooddad409]

@WuWei

@tnt

@WuWei

You made this claim, back it up.

How could you look her in the eye?

If you forced it. What is the risk of the disease to that age group?

You seem to feel it is worth any cost. Your decision. For you and yours only.

Wanting everyone to do what you feel is right has a name. Forcing them to do it has a different name.

And your motivation… so you can get “back to normal”. Selfish.

Some of us never left normal. We’re just waiting.

Yes, I got vaccinated. It was the right decision for me, so far.

I have no opinion on if you should or not. That would be none of my business.

Hear hear. A lot of us never left normal.

[Guntsu]

Vaccine requirements are not new or groundbreaking for attending public school, as a parent of two school aged kids I support the Covid vaccines being part of the current vaccine requirements.

They already are here in SD school district for over 12 and once FDA approved for under 12 they will be also.

[Orygun]

@Guntsu

SD school district

Is that San Diego?

I think this will again turn into a red/blue thing and most all blue school districts will mandate the vaccine and the reds will not. I can already guess which districts will have more cases and deaths.

[Guntsu]

Yeah, San Diego…I think Newsom has made it state wide however and as expected has caused some ruffles…

But there was a recall and they couldn’t beat em…was a blow out actually

With the way the virus has been trending in Cali it does not surprise me Newsom has the support

California has the lowest coronavirus rate in the nation. Here's what we know

[Orygun]

Wow- didnt know that…

As of Monday, California’s seven-day case rate was 95.3 per 100,000 people. The next-closest state was Connecticut, at 126.5.

The comparable rates over the same period were 385.1 cases per 100,000 people in Texas; 287.2 in Florida; 250.1 in Arizona; 234.7 in Oregon; and 202.5 in Nevada, federal data show.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

Virus’s don’t give a crap about your freedoms.

Anything can be rationalized with that same thing.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

That survey of VEARS data is over a 25 year timespan.

And there we have it.

[WuWei]

@PAmoderate37

I already did. You just don’t like it. Just because it’s not mandated doesn’t mean the vast majority of people won’t take it. So saying what happened before the vaccine was developed is useless.

Putting government between the parents and the doctor. On Fauci’s say so. Bad move.

If your doctor recommends against a vaccine for your child, what do you do?

[Orygun]

@WuWei

Anything can be rationalized with that same thing.

You don’t care about mandates since you support school mandated vaccines.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

@WuWei

Anything can be rationalized with that same thing.

You don’t care about mandates since you support school mandated vaccines.

Did I? Where?

[Orygun]

@WuWei

Did I?

Yes. You do.

[WuWei]

@Orygun

@WuWei

Did I?

Yes. You do.

Where?