Somebody is Still Mad Hillary Lost

Snow96 · 2019-01-04T05:35:45.748Z

And both have the same results. Amendment should be the last option.

Sewell · 2019-01-04T05:36:56.659Z

Or amendment should be the first option. If it is a better option to give an equal vote to every citizen, then it should be part of the Constitution, and not left to the whims of each state’s legislatures.

BigBear · 2019-01-04T05:50:24.674Z

Snow96:

Instead of the constitutional amendment, how about people – if they want it, just push their states to pass a law that if and when enough states pass the same law, their electoral college will vote as the popular vote goes.

So far only a few states have passed it. Constitutional and legal.

Why? Because states with less vote power are unlikely to dilute their power even more, and states with more vote power won’t step up to dilute their power.

Snow96 · 2019-01-04T06:01:38.382Z

And you think 3/4 of the states would approve of the constitutional amendment?

Klaxton · 2019-01-04T06:10:26.744Z

RTchoke:

The people of Wyoming should have just as much say as the people of California.

Actually, the Democrats in Wyoming should have some say instead of the Republicans in Wyoming getting all of the say and the Republicans in California should have some say instead of the Democrats getting all the say.

Split the electoral votes in every state based on how the people in the state vote. That is the best way to go. Either that or just go with the popular vote. Either way the democrat candidate will likely kick the ■■■■ out of the republican because republican policies suck for most Americans.

Klaxton · 2019-01-04T06:13:12.828Z

1, 2, 12

The National Popular Vote bill will take effect when enacted into law by states possessing 270 electoral votes (a majority of the 538 electoral votes). It has been enacted into law in 12 jurisdictions possessing 172 electoral votes (CA, CT, DC, HI, IL, MA, MD, NJ, NY, RI, VT, WA). The bill will take effect when enacted by states possessing an additional 98 electoral votes.

Snow96 · 2019-01-04T06:16:57.638Z

12 out of 50 is a few

Klaxton · 2019-01-04T06:19:45.057Z

63% of the electoral votes needed and roughly 25 percent of the states is a few…

um… ok

SeaManatee · 2019-01-04T06:35:21.389Z

Didn’t trump want it gone before he won by it?

Why yes, he called it a disaster for democracy. And he’s still saying it should go.

Klaxton · 2019-01-04T06:39:39.884Z

SeaManatee:

Didn’t trump want it gone before he won by it?

Why yes, he called it a disaster for democracy. And he’s still saying it should go.

Amazing! Trump was actually right about something once.

Axxowiz · 2019-01-04T07:24:23.600Z

It’s a pretty hard process to get rid of the electoral college 2/3rd senate, congress and a host of other procedures that’s near impossible to achieve.

BillBrown · 2019-01-04T09:50:40.728Z

Axxowiz:

It’s a pretty hard process to get rid of the electoral college 2/3rd senate, congress and a host of other procedures that’s near impossible to achieve.

Not a host of other procedures.
Just ratification by 3/4 of the states. (38). Yes, it’s hard to achieve.

mobulis · 2019-01-04T10:51:35.900Z

RTchoke:

The people of Wyoming should have just as much say as the people of California.

They do…

BigBear · 2019-01-04T13:26:57.710Z

Snow96:

And you think 3/4 of the states would approve of the constitutional amendment?

I didn’t claim that. I was simply responding to you suggestion that states should on their own adopt a proportional distribution of EC votes.

As to whether that threshold could be reached, it would be tough. But it would be made an easier goal given that states would know that the change would apply to all states at once, or none if the proposal eventually fails. There would be time to work on the fence-sitters.

BigBear · 2019-01-04T13:37:34.632Z

SeaManatee:

Didn’t trump want it gone before he won by it?

Why yes, he called it a disaster for democracy. And he’s still saying it should go.

Yes, Trump said (by tweet, natch) that it was a “disaster for democracy” in 2012, because he thought Mitt Romney had won the popular vote. Because Trump is a ■■■■■■■ moron.

Casper_the_ghost · 2019-01-05T04:00:44.017Z

Al Gore lost his home state of TN, for if he won TN than nobody would have given a damn about what happened in FL. As for Wyoming nobody gives a ■■■■ what happens with their three EC votes. Neither Hillary or Trump visiting Wyoming.

MidwestIndy · 2019-01-05T04:10:15.849Z

Not sure I’m there yet, but the EC has given us two of the worst presidents of the past half century over the total vote of the people.

DougBH · 2019-01-05T04:10:53.497Z

In order to pass that amendment doing away with the electoral college it will be necessary to gain the support of many of the smaller states that are protected by that electoral college. I wouldn’t worry about that happening just yet.

Chris · 2019-01-05T21:40:46.516Z

We have been told that we have the Electoral College to give small States a voice. But several small States such as Delaware, Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Vermont did not go with Trump. Trump ended up winning the 2016 election by winning large States (such as Pennsylvania and Michigan) by razor-thin margins.

calirepub · 2019-01-05T21:42:01.718Z

Voters in Pennsylvania and Michigan are more valuable than voters in Delaware.