That link does not state 40 mil by Stalin, It says 40 mil by Mao
That question has already been answered. They are innocent.
Decades of study and yet you link to numbers I already told you are not verifiable
Christians believe that, but there’s more to it than you realize. “Inclusivism” is where God applies the Ransom of Christ to non Christians who are 1)righteous; 2)die before age of accountability.
You should study that. I recommend you check out “What About Those Who Have Never Heard?: Three Views on the Destiny of the Unevangelized” (p. 22). Kindle Edition.
Inclusivism is the “consensus” and there is much to recommend it. I may end up doing so myself, but for now I’m still fleshing this out. I see problems with it. See my other post.
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This thread is classic propaganda…
Phase 1: evolution isn’t real!
Phase 2: well ok maybe it is but abiogenesis isn’t real!!
Phase 3: ok but Stalin and Mao were atheists!
Again he was going to invade Russia anyway. His hate for Stalin had nothing to do with it.
yuuup had nothing to do with communism… nosirreeee…
God this was such a ■■■■■■■ stupid claim on your part. Decades of study? If you studied it for decades you would understand where i am coming from with my position regarding Russian deaths. It is hotly contested issue in European history.
When you defend religion you have to defend its ills.
When I said “Christians believe that” I didn’t explain they are made Christians after they die by God’s grace, by applying the propitiation of Christ to them. Like I said, check out the book
Gabriel Fackre;Ronald H. Nash;John Sanders. “What About Those Who Have Never Heard?: Three Views on the Destiny of the Unevangelized” Kindle Edition.
Try reading instead of scanning. In Russia alone the estimates are from 6-60 million. Even if all we add to that total are those murdered in the Ukraine via starvation which was nearly the entire population 40 million becomes pretty conservative.
We know for example that when Paulus surrendered the 8th Army Stalin Marched 170,000 men to the gulags and only 10,000 lived to ever be repatriated.
As the article states, murderous dictators outside of Germany tend not to be very good at record keeping so most of the dead have to be traced by hand to when they disappeared.
It’s hotly contested by Russians.
Finally. This is my point exactly.
When I started this with you I specifically told you that they are not verifiable. These numbers oyu were throwing around are nothing but estimates.
They are the best estimates available. If you refuse to accept them that is your issue.
It’s 6 to 60 mil. Not 35-40. Which means either Stalin killed more of his people than were killed in ww2 or he didn’t. That was my point from the very beginning. You threw out one of your “facts”. I contestes it by telling you they ar snot veirfiable and then at the end you post a wide ranging estimate. Are you being serious?
You have no point.
Amazing to see the defense of Stalin however.
That’s your counter to you once again stating something as fact when it actually isn’t? Good job rose. I applaud you.
