So what's the fall back option?

WildRose · 2019-10-06T03:06:58.639Z

All irrelevant.

He was the point man for US/Ukraine policy.

His son was appointed to the board of Bursima solely for the purpose of buying favor and access to Biden.

Biden directly threatened to pull the billion dollars if the prosecutor was not fired in six hours.

It wouldn’t matter if the whole world wanted the man fired, Biden blackmailed the Ukrainian President into doing it and then bragged about it publicly.

It is by any definition corrupt and a conflict of interest.

You people would all be apoplectic if Trump or Pence did anything remotely similar benefiting their kids and companies they work for.

Paul_Thomson · 2019-10-06T03:18:08.504Z

Guilds:

Joe was not the only demanding the corrupt prosecutor be fired.
If he was, you may have something to have an actual issue.
But he wasn’t.

Please keep up.

Who else was demanding the same prosecutor’s firing?

Guilds · 2019-10-06T03:21:16.690Z

Paul_Thomson:

Who else was demanding the same prosecutor’s firing?

Seriously?

It is pretty common knowledge.

The IMF for one threatening to withhold 40 billion in aid.

Guilds · 2019-10-06T03:24:19.997Z

The IMF, the USA, and many other nations wanted the corrupt prosecutor fired.

The IMP also was threatening to block billions is aid.

Biden was blowing smoke. Kind of like what Trump does.

WildRose · 2019-10-06T03:26:14.143Z

None of your deflections are relevant to the conflict of interest, the quid pro quo, or the corruption.

Biden should never have been involved period.

Paul_Thomson · 2019-10-06T03:50:20.322Z

Guilds:

The IMF for one threatening to withhold 40 billion in aid.

Who in the IMF?
Do you really believe the IMF is an organisation that crusades for the benefit of citizens against corruption in governments?

WildRose · 2019-10-06T03:53:08.787Z

International Monetary Fund, basically another backdoor way to send US tax dollars overseas to buy political favors.

Guilds · 2019-10-06T05:17:14.007Z

Quid pro quo?

For some, facts are deflections.

See ya pardner.

Guilds · 2019-10-06T05:18:05.884Z

Paul_Thomson:

Who in the IMF?

Wow…
Dude, you are out of your league.

So do some basic reading…and come back.

WildRose · 2019-10-06T05:18:07.966Z

Yes, quid pro quo, a billion dollars to fire the prosecutor within six hours.

Guilds · 2019-10-06T05:18:46.153Z

WildRose:

Yes, quid pro quo, a billion dollars to fire the prosecutor within six hours

conan · 2019-10-06T06:10:01.981Z

So libs…how’s that fake impeachment going?

WildRose · 2019-10-06T06:11:54.496Z

Nowhere so far.

Paul_Thomson · 2019-10-06T07:46:10.830Z

Guilds:

Wow…
Dude, you are out of your league.

So do some basic reading…and come back.

Are you too embarrassed to simply admit you don’t know? Looks like it.

Paul_Thomson · 2019-10-06T08:25:32.834Z

conan:

So libs…how’s that fake impeachment going

They smell smoke, and assume there’s are flames under POTUS, but it’s their own pants on .

WildRose · 2019-10-06T08:40:20.406Z

It isn’t smoke they are smelling… .

Tommy-Englander · 2019-10-06T10:01:33.437Z

WildRose:

It’s directly related since the prosecutor Joe demanded be fired was looking into Burisma.

At a bare minimum it’s a clear conflict of interest. Looking at it more broadly and in context, it’s completely corrupt.

Shokin wasn’t investigating Burisma at the time BIden made his ultimatum

“Simply put, there were no active investigations into Burisma at the time of Shokin’s removal in 2016. If anything, Shokin served as a barrier to a real investigation into the company. When, for example, Britain’s Serious Fraud Office froze $23m (£19m) of Zlochevsky’s assets after a money laundering investigation, it was Shokin’s office that produced an exonerating letter that Zlochevsky then used to unfreeze the cash. Internal prosecutor reports seen by Bloomberg confirmed that Shokin declined to pursue an investigation at all stages.”

The Independent – 3 Oct 19

How a wild conspiracy theory led to impeachment proceedings against Trump

In the process of dissecting the fantasy of Joe Biden’s wrongdoing, few emerge with honour, writes Oliver Carroll, in Kiev

WildRose · 2019-10-06T10:05:35.296Z

Yes he was, the case remained open and according to Shokin himself Biden and his partner were both on the list to be questioned.

Tommy-Englander · 2019-10-06T10:10:29.930Z

According to Shokin? Shokin has zero credibility.

"This is not a scandal of Kiev’s making – or asking. Many Ukrainians are surprised to see the name of Burisma pushed to international front pages. They are even more astonished at seeing their former chief prosecutor portrayed as an anti-corruption warrior.

“We were very angry that three separate general prosecutors failed to investigate Burisma properly,” says Daria Kaleniuk, the founder of Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Action Centre, an organisation that has examined Burisma’s dealings in forensic detail. “But we are frankly amazed that a corrupt prosecutor is now being described [by Donald Trump] as a good prosecutor.”

WildRose · 2019-10-06T10:12:22.576Z

Reject if it if it makes you feel comforted but Shokin was the guy running the investigation so he is the original and most credible source as to it’s progress.