So nothing like this could ever happen to a white man? Oh really?

[WuWei]

@STODR

@WuWei

@STODR

Using it to question a person who matches a description height, color, clothing after a hold up, is the correct way. Using it to get your info or to frisk you just because they see you standing on a corner and you refuse to identify yourself because you don’t have to is the wrong way. It is as blatant as the I smell weed excuse.

Only if the contact is consensual.

Not sure what you mean. States I lived in you don’t have identify unless you are detained (you have to be suspected of a crime to be detained). Doesn’t matter if it is consensual if I understand what you mean by consensual.

The contact is consensual. I agree to talk to the cop.

[STODR]

@WuWei

@STODR

@WuWei

@STODR

Using it to question a person who matches a description height, color, clothing after a hold up, is the correct way. Using it to get your info or to frisk you just because they see you standing on a corner and you refuse to identify yourself because you don’t have to is the wrong way. It is as blatant as the I smell weed excuse.

Only if the contact is consensual.

Not sure what you mean. States I lived in you don’t have identify unless you are detained (you have to be suspected of a crime to be detained). Doesn’t matter if it is consensual if I understand what you mean by consensual.

The contact is consensual. I agree to talk to the cop.

Ok I understand

[zantax]

@SottoVoce

@Eagle-Keeper

Dude where have you been, go to my other thread on this I already beat you to this particular stat.

Blacks are arrested more, so it’s OK that more of them are killed. That sum it up? Maybe you can share some statistics as to how blacks are more frequently arrested than whites for the same actions?

Err no dice, fbi victim reports show the same disparity. As in, victims report blacks to be the perp as often as the rates they show up as arrested. And keep in mind, the vast majority of victims who report it was a black person who victimized them are also black.

[Samson_Corwell]

@SottoVoce

Who says it doesn’t happen towards whites or other groups? Straw man has entered the chat.

Blacks are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police than whites. Those same blacks killed by police are also 1.5 times more likely to be unarmed at the time of their death then the whites who were killed. Blacks are much more likely to be killed by police and much more likely to be unarmed when it happens. There is a race issue when it comes to frequency and circumstance. There is no race issue when it comes to police using excessive force and at times killing people.

Chart: Black Americans 2.5X More Likely Than Whites to Be Killed By Police | Statista

I have indeed seen people say it.

[gooddad409]

@WuWei

@gooddad409

@JimmyC

So are you saying that the protests are unwarranted?

Rioting, burning, and looting are unwarranted.

Looting I agree with…

Warranted is in the eye of the beholder.

You like justification better? There’s no justification for burning, looting, and beating the hell out of people.

Everybody is upset at what the police officers did but two wrongs have never made a right.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@W_and_C

The reason it’s amplified when the victim black, like someone in this thread already mentioned, is due to our country’s history of racial inequality.

I have asked this a few times already so far no answer:

Joe Biden has had 50 years to fix this (including eight years with Obama), along with all the Democrat mayor’s and Governors during that time as well. So whose to blame?

[DougBH]

@zantax

@SottoVoce

@Eagle-Keeper

Dude where have you been, go to my other thread on this I already beat you to this particular stat.

Blacks are arrested more, so it’s OK that more of them are killed. That sum it up? Maybe you can share some statistics as to how blacks are more frequently arrested than whites for the same actions?

Err no dice, fbi victim reports show the same disparity. As in, victims report blacks to be the perp as often as the rates they show up as arrested. And keep in mind, the vast majority of victims who report it was a black person who victimized them are also black.

Aha! Then it all comes down to people are biased toward being robbed by a white person and don’t report it when it happens.

[ResPrivita]

A young lady sells her body for money.
She lives with her uncle in his home, nice home.
Men come to the house, they buy her body.
Over time local cops start coming over, and buy her body too.
Soon many cops are buying her body, and they become jealous, the secret is out.
Finally the head cop decides to put a stop to it all, he can’t look bad, he’s elected after all.
So he sends a few officers to the house, without a warrant, they hide just outside the front door,
Ding Dong!
She answers the door, they don’t announce who they are, they just grab her, she screams.
The uncle fires a around into the ceiling, they start shooting each other.
Guess who get’s charged?
True story.
No black people were hurt in the above scenario, actually none were there.
But the corrupt, inept cops were.
The uncle was found guilty, won a stand your ground defense on appeal.
He had no idea who was grabbing his niece, and they didn’t follow procedure at all when they did so.

[DougBH]

Interesting story.

Point?

[ResPrivita]

It is not a cops/black issue.
It is a cop issue, as well as prosecutors, broken court appointed system, bad judges, etc…
Not just black, at least I don’t think so.
It is bigger, as bad cops affect all of society.
Look what four really bad ones did in minnesota, they set the whole country on fire.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@ResPrivita

Look what four really bad ones did in minnesota, they set the whole country on fire.

And the people actually setting the fires have no blame in this?

[ResPrivita]

It’s not that simple.
I have seen a lot of destruction when a band wouldn’t play.
Fire, theft, looting, destruction.
I was in LA when kobe was winning, things got destroyed after, and looted, and the city had no protest or grievance. LA won, it was a happy looting, and burning, figure that one out?

[mobulis]

@ResPrivita

It’s not that simple.
I have seen a lot of destruction when a band wouldn’t play.
Fire, theft, looting, destruction.
I was in LA when kobe was winning, things got destroyed after, and looted, and the city had no protest or grievance. LA won, it was a happy looting, and burning, figure that one out?

I think it was more drunk looting, and burning.

[Smyrna]

@conan

chances are we would never heard about about it.

Yeah…like a 100% chance. This is nothing more than another lib ploy to derail Trump. It’s on par with Russian collusion, the Mueller investigation, the impeachment proceeding based on fake bull feces, shutting down the country as the reaction to combat COVID-19 and get a stimulus to bail out lib institutions that have been financially mismanaged for decades that are about to go bankrupt and now this…fanned incessantly by the MSM. Be proud libs…it shows a true love for your country and fellow man. You own all of the hostility in our nation today. Be proud.

[FloridaYankee]

@Eagle-Keeper

I’ve heard more than my share of liberals on TV say that this could never happen to a white man. I’ve got a news flash for you, the essence of most politics in America is about pushing a narrative.

I do not believe you.

[Camp]

@conan

And we almost had it. Death of Floyd had brought both sides together to face reality of brutality of some cops. But now with rioting and looting destruction etc. We have forced the police to do just that to regain back control.

So instead of crafting laws to rein in the police powers…what happen? Now they’re forced to exercise more power to regain control. So exact opposite happens.

That’s the problem with violent demonstrators. They end up giving police more power.

And it’s not just Blacks…as OP point out it’s also whites that are abused.

Conan…This is an important and clear concise point.

This is exactly what has transpired.

[anon91495210]

Yes. The uproar is misplaced. A cop committed murder, was arrested and jailed. It’s not like the murder was committed and no one will address it. Let’s also not forget that this guy was on meth at the time of the arrest and had a lengthy criminal career. No, that doesn’t justify murder but here we have a career criminal on drugs and the justice system still takes his side in light of evidence of murder.

Lastly, this myth that there’s a lot of cases like this can be easily debunked with statistics. According to the Washington Post, there were 4 blacks that were unarmed and not fleeing that were killed last year by police. ONE of those was not due to violent actions of the person killed. That one resulted in charges being filed on the cop.

[WuWei]

@anon91495210

Let’s also not forget that this guy was on meth at the time of the arrest and had a lengthy criminal career.

Meth? No.

So no we’re going with the miniskirt defense?

[anon91495210]

Did you read the entire post? Yes, meth.

The Hennepin Countymedical examiner’s autopsy found that Floyd died from cardiac arrest while being restrained by officers who had employed “neck compression”, also noting “arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; and recent methamphetamineuse”.[24]

[anon91495210]

My statement was clear. Here we have a career criminal on drugs and the justice system STILL sided with him against a cop when presented with evidence. No where in there was I blaming George for the death.