So MAGA-He's Lost Again

[Ben_Natuf]

5000 per day for 7 days. So long as day 7 was 4999, nothing could be done

[LeroyBrown]

@PurpnGold

@Ben_Natuf

Protect religious freedom

Only if you are Christian

This last one has always confused me. Anyone that has cracked open their Bible and has read Acts would know that the freedom of the Gospel doesn’t need political power to protect it.

[Ben_Natuf]

So, we’ve had RFK and Tulsi come over to the light and supposedly there are more announcements to come. So, what other peace loving, rights loving, Democrats out there have a history of railing against government power and the MIC?

Dennis Kucinich?

[SpadeMarlowe]

@Guilds

@Ben_Natuf

when did I ever say I gave a damn what eurotrash did?

It is not just Europe. We are the outlier…kind of ironic, we are the richest nation on the planet…yet we fail to take care of our people on the same level as many other nations with nowhere near the wealth we have,

Ask your self:
WHY is USA the richest?

[SpadeMarlowe]

@Guilds

@DougBH

And how is vastly increasing immigration, legally or illegally, going to make all these social benefits more affordable?

We need them. And they will pay taxes. here is just one example.

Eddie Martin can’t build as many homes as he’d like in Texas because his contractors don’t have enough workers, particularly skilled tradespeople such as electricians, carpenters and plumbers.

This labor shortage, exacerbated by an aging workforce and growing number of retirements, means it’s more crucial than ever for the US to allow more legal immigrants into the country to bolster the ranks of the construction industry, said Martin, CEO of Tilson Custom Home Builders in Austin.

“We’re losing business. There’s no doubt,” said Martin, whose wife’s family started the company in 1932. “So many of those skilled workers are aging out. There’s nobody replacing them.”

People who crossed the border illegaly are NOT plumbers, electricians and carpenters.

[tnt]

@DougBH

@tnt

@Ben_Natuf

none of that makes your happiness and healthiness my responsibility.

If you have a better boss, is your life improved? If you have a better surgeon or doctor, is your life better off?

So…therefore it is the job of government to make everybody happy?

Substitute ‘healthy, food and shelter secure’ for happy.

[Conservative_frk]

We lack people in those professions because we were short sighted and convinced everyone to go to Universities. Now we have tons of young people in debt before they are 22 and holding degrees not worth the paper they are printed on.

[Ben_Natuf]

oh, so now we’ve moved on from healthy to feeding them and housing them… what a perfect little marxist utopia

[tnt]

We already do that.

[Nemesis]

In my opinion government (state and Federal) has a vested interest in ensuring the nations population is healthy, educated, has access to housing etc. They should not be the sole arbiter of this but need to create an environment that helps to facilitate this.

[Ben_Natuf]

we have that environment, its call free market capitalism within a constitutional republic.

[gooddad409]

@DougBH

@DisturbedGuy

@WuWei

The bill you are claiming was killed by Trump is not “bipartisan”.

@DisturbedGuy

Why on earth would dems pass a republican border wish list?

Why do dems want illegals in the US?

Looks bipartisan to me and included a border state senator.

James Lankford, R-Okla., Chris Murphy, D-Conn., and Kyrsten Sinema, I-Ariz.

One Senator (or even three) does not make a bill bipartisan. If that bill were bipartisan it would have appealed to enough Republicans to hae it passed. Since its major change in border law was to ban a President from keeping illeglas out until they could prove to a leftist court in DC that more than 4,500 people were crossing a day, it was a less security bill, not a more security bill.

Hilarious that they are still crying about a bill which would have forced future presidents to keep the border open.

They (libs) are either that dumb about the bill or that dishonest.

[Ben_Natuf]

I’ll take doors number 1 and 2!

[gooddad409]

@Ben_Natuf

I’ll take doors number 1 and 2!

Yeah me too actually.

[DougBH]

@gooddad409

Hilarious that they are still crying about a bill which would have forced future presidents to keep the border open.

They (libs) are either that dumb about the bill or that dishonest.

They know. They have to know. Nobody is that stupid. Well, not many. Some have “joy” instead of brains.

[DougBH]

@Nemesis

In my opinion government (state and Federal) has a vested interest in ensuring the nations population is healthy, educated, has access to housing etc. They should not be the sole arbiter of this but need to create an environment that helps to facilitate this.

And open borders isn’t that environment.

[Nemesis]

Yes I agree.

[Nemesis]

@DougBH

@Nemesis

In my opinion government (state and Federal) has a vested interest in ensuring the nations population is healthy, educated, has access to housing etc. They should not be the sole arbiter of this but need to create an environment that helps to facilitate this.

And open borders isn’t that environment.

Never said it was. Of course we need stricter controls at the border; however the world has never seen a movement of people in this scale before. Looking bigger picture we need to think what can we do nations to improve conditions in those countries. Obviously some of those countries will not be receptive but taking an isolationist approach will not help.

Repatriating the 11 million here illegally is not logistically possible but both sides need to come together to hammer out a solution which will require compromises from everyone. This is why we elect people to these offices. Thats their job.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@DougBH

@tnt

@Ben_Natuf

none of that makes your happiness and healthiness my responsibility.

If you have a better boss, is your life improved? If you have a better surgeon or doctor, is your life better off?

So…therefore it is the job of government to make everybody happy?

Substitute ‘healthy, food and shelter secure’ for happy.

You feel that’s the central government’s purview?

[WuWei]

@tnt

We already do that.

Who takes care of you?