So libs, what exactly do you like about mass migration?

Janet_Miller · 2018-07-31T17:06:54.337Z

“if people really think there’s a birth rate problem”

Not sure how a “birthrate problem” is defined. Number of children?

“then maybe the government could try programs”

I’m from the government & I’m here to help. No thank you. Government incentives to induce a native population to reproduce more have not been successful.

Young Russians in the former USSR considered the state payment for more children insulting. Didn’t work in Hong Kong.

IMO various government programs, like rent controls that drive housing prices through the roof, are part of what creates conditions that aren’t economically favorable for couples wanting children. The only incentive to increase the population naturally gets a few on this Forum in an uproar, & that’s taking away abortion rights for all but those with life jeopardizing pregnancies.

Mother Theresa said it right. Paraphrasing her “A society that destroys its children isn’t one that will prosper.”

Janet_Miller · 2018-07-31T17:10:35.620Z

Where then? Central America?

Muslim majority countries?

I’ll take in my state of residence their work ethics—even if they’re not working professional jobs—over that of some native borns, who will wait for a response on an Unemployment Insurance application before even starting to look for another.

altair1013 · 2018-07-31T17:13:57.890Z

adroit:

In an attempt to take the OP on it’s face, rather than the obvious troll post it is:

How do you define “mass” migration? How many migrants equals “mass”?

Just quoting so the OP can answer this question.

I guess thousands of unchecked border crossers would be enough to meet my definition of mass. I didn’t invert the term. It was used to describe the wave of middle people/ African people flooding Europe. There are many articles depicting how "mass migration " is overwhelming parts of Europe.

There. You have your answer.

altair1013 · 2018-07-31T17:18:10.344Z

Janet_Miller:

Where then? Central America?

Muslim majority countries?

I’ll take in my state of residence their work ethics—even if they’re not working professional jobs—over that of some native borns, who will wait for a response on an Unemployment Insurance application before even starting to look for another.

If they are here illegally. I would like to see them deported, Even if they work hard. Even if they work like slaves.

Dem · 2018-07-31T17:21:08.848Z

What do you mean by mass migration? Refugees? Illegal immigaration? Legal immigration?

Dem · 2018-07-31T17:24:07.196Z

MrOldTimer3.0:

Hawaii is a state instead of a backwards naked fish gathering society.

White savior?

And America wa pretty colonialist, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, The Phillipines, etc. But I dont remember Obama talking about American colonialism

gooddad409 · 2018-07-31T17:25:57.059Z

koushi_shinigami:

Votes.

…

Exactly. Votes. Screw the country but get those votes.

MrOldTimer3.0 · 2018-07-31T17:28:02.246Z

Dem:

But I dont remember Obama talking about American colonialism

Not surprised. Conservatives never made a big deal about it bekez it was soooo stupid and non-understandable. MSDNC wouldn’t mention it. I googled for an answer…Here tis on WAPO:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/07/AR2010100705485.html

adroit · 2018-07-31T17:34:40.169Z

altair1013:

adroit:

In an attempt to take the OP on it’s face, rather than the obvious troll post it is:

How do you define “mass” migration? How many migrants equals “mass”?

Just quoting so the OP can answer this question.

I guess thousands of unchecked border crossers would be enough to meet my definition of mass.
There. You have your answer.

So, as long as border crossers are checked, it’s not mass migration? I’m in favor of checking all border crossers.

altair1013 · 2018-07-31T17:35:14.455Z

Dem:

What do you mean by mass migration? Refugees? Illegal immigaration? Legal immigration?

I already defined the first one.

A refugee is someone who is fleeing tyranny such as a Christian fleeing Muslim genocide. Many claim to be refugees who are not. But they understand, this is their quickest path to legalization.

I don’t use the term illegal immigrant. An immigrant obeys our immigration laws. I used the term illegal invader. They do not obey our immigration laws.

I have a sister in law and brother in law who are legal immigrants. They both respected our laws and came here legally. I simply refer to them as Americans.

I hope this helps.

altair1013 · 2018-07-31T17:47:16.934Z

adroit:

So, as long as border crossers are checked, it’s not mass migration? I’m in favor of checking all border crossers.

No. Not border crossers. As I said. My sister in law and brother in law are immigrants. Neither one is a border crosser. When they were granted permission to enter our country, they did. Border crossers need to go back home and apply. Respect our country and our laws. If they don’t, they do not belong here.

Drs · 2018-07-31T18:01:16.448Z

Conservatives didn’t make a big deal about it?

Then you link to an article written by a right wing propagandist?

You think we all forgot the Gingrich inspired threads at the last board talking about that stuff?

MrOldTimer3.0 · 2018-07-31T18:41:41.747Z

Drs:

Then you link to an article written by a right wing propagandist?

You think we all forgot the Gingrich inspired threads at the last board talking about that stuff?

Couple of things. DeSouzaphone is hardly a propagandist. He’s a blacklisted film producer and a former political prisoner of the Obama regime.

That you recall and were around at that time tells me a LOT about you. That was pretty much inside baseball yak…compared. And short lived.

What it tells me about you is that you unlike the easily identifiable junior pudknockers on here you have been around a long time…and exposed to the truth a long time. And yet you are still a hardliner lefty. You’re kinda rare.

Axxowiz · 2018-07-31T18:45:55.641Z

I’m not saying the government has to step in if you look at my exchanges earlier I was saying if the U.S. ever came to the situation that they need more people I would rather see tax incentives to Americans (Or something else) for having children rather than bringing them in from the third world.

Because the lefts solution is to just open up the borders.

altair1013 · 2018-07-31T19:05:30.117Z

Axxowiz:

I’m not saying the government has to step in if you look at my exchanges earlier I was saying if the U.S. ever came to the situation that they need more people I would rather see tax incentives to Americans (Or something else) for having children rather than bringing them in from the third world.

Because the lefts solution is to just open up the borders.

The left has two types. The ones who openly want the borders abandoned. And the sneaky ones, who won’t comment.

Drs · 2018-07-31T19:08:39.213Z

The guy is a propagandists who broke the law.

The fact that I do not get sucked into voting right or left just proves I am a political.

I like ideas and policy discussions.

Drs · 2018-07-31T19:10:19.435Z

Really I have never heard this where is this policy?
Would it mean no more border agents?

MrOldTimer3.0 · 2018-07-31T19:11:47.621Z

Drs:

I am a political.

Well, Mx. a political. You might fool the babies on here. But I know your game. You’re a virulent liberal. You’re sort of an uber lib. High in the councils. You don’t follow policy. You make it. I gotcha.

mobulis · 2018-07-31T19:12:51.970Z

altair1013:

Axxowiz:

I’m not saying the government has to step in if you look at my exchanges earlier I was saying if the U.S. ever came to the situation that they need more people I would rather see tax incentives to Americans (Or something else) for having children rather than bringing them in from the third world.

Because the lefts solution is to just open up the borders.

The left has two types. The ones who openly want the borders abandoned. And the sneaky ones, who won’t comment.

Except for the fact we don’t want the borders abandoned.

altair1013 · 2018-07-31T19:15:37.550Z

Drs:

The guy is a propagandists who broke the law.

The fact that I do not get sucked into voting right or left just proves I am a political.

I like ideas and policy discussions.

I vote right-ish. I usually don’t have much of a choice. I can vote for a party that is Leftist/ socialist or a party that is moderate/ liberal with a couple dozen random conservatives. I really don’t have a party that I can put my support behind. Most republicans are worthless, but I end up voting for them because they will damage our country at a slower rate than the dems.