Smugglers are sawing through new sections of trump’s border wall

Guvnah · 2019-11-04T04:32:36.145Z

Apocalypto:

Then, why do you assume every non trump supporter wants open borders?

I already answered that:

"And then they will argue against any border solution proposed. "

FloridaYankee · 2019-11-04T10:06:19.843Z

WildRose:

What sawsall blade cuts hardened concrete?

None that I know of, not effectively at least.

Paul_Thomson · 2019-11-04T10:58:09.679Z

NJBob:

Are conservatives ready to admit the wall is a waste of time and money; that it doesn’t work as promised?

It slows would-be trespassers down so that border patrol personnel, alerted by smart technology, can get to the breach site and prevent illegal entry. Maybe signs saying, “persons seen damaging this wall will be shot” should be included. After a few deaths, word would get around.

How would the Dems’ border security option be better. It would be the same, but without the delay factor.

NJBob · 2019-11-04T11:03:02.830Z

How about more border personnel? In most areas a wall makes no sense.

It’s a feel good attempt at a solution. Even you admit it can be breached.

bigtwnvin · 2019-11-04T11:06:52.414Z

“The Wall” may provide some deterrent but IMHO if you truly want to remove all doubt, the southwest border especially the wide open ranges should be treated like the 38th parallel.

Paul_Thomson · 2019-11-04T12:38:43.221Z

NJBob:

How about more border personnel? In most areas a wall makes no sense.

It’s a feel good attempt at a solution. Even you admit it can be breached.

So because laws can be breached, we shouldn’t have them? Do you have locks on your doors? Why? Aren’t it just a feel good exercise?

WuWei · 2019-11-04T12:43:41.697Z

NJBob:

How about more border personnel? In most areas a wall makes no sense.

It’s a feel good attempt at a solution. Even you admit it can be breached.

They can’t fill the spots they have open now, Bob.

NJBob · 2019-11-04T14:49:00.571Z

Paul_Thomson:

NJBob:

How about more border personnel? In most areas a wall makes no sense.

It’s a feel good attempt at a solution. Even you admit it can be breached.

So because laws can be breached, we shouldn’t have them? Do you have locks on your doors? Why? Aren’t it just a feel good exercise?

More border personnel would be more effective than a wall. Just like having guard outside my house would be more effective than a lock.

Paul_Thomson · 2019-11-04T16:27:23.766Z

NJBob:

More border personnel would be more effective than a wall. Just like having guard outside my house would be more effective than a lock.

So, you have a guard outside your house? In your hypothetical scenario where there are border personnel and no wall, how do you envision aliens not crossing the border and claiming asylum, once they put their feet on US soil?

NJBob · 2019-11-04T17:02:23.581Z

Paul_Thomson:

NJBob:

More border personnel would be more effective than a wall. Just like having guard outside my house would be more effective than a lock.

So, you have a guard outside your house? In your hypothetical scenario where there are border personnel and no wall, how do you envision aliens not crossing the border and claiming asylum, once they put their feet on US soil?

They need to cross at a port of entry to claim asylum. That’s where a wall/fence makes sense.

tnt · 2019-11-04T17:06:45.575Z

WildRose:

What sawsall blade cuts hardened concrete?

Diamond blade in a circular saw does it.

Vigilante · 2019-11-04T17:09:01.257Z

WildRose:

They damned sure aren’t doing it with a saber saw/sawsall.

You should visit a home improvement store. There are many battery operated Cutting wheels available. I like the torque that s Makita lithium will give you. Why heck Ive cut through gun safes with s basic grinder with a big cutting wheel before

Paul_Thomson · 2019-11-04T17:33:27.657Z

NJBob:

They need to cross at a port of entry to claim asylum. That’s where a wall/fence makes sense.

Is that the new regime Trump has imposed, or the one Obama left in place when he exited the WH?

Cratic3947 · 2019-11-04T18:43:16.000Z

What’s the dems solution?

Mexico is paying for a human wall rightn ow!

Vigilante · 2019-11-04T19:10:53.955Z

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These are simple tools. They will go on sale next month for Christmas Padres

Cratic3947 · 2019-11-04T19:43:37.883Z

Since one person cheats on their income taxes,I say we scrap the whole program… I guess that’s the logic of this thread…

WildRose · 2019-11-05T12:07:37.149Z

Gun safes until you get up to the very expensive high end models are no more secure than a wall locker.

The bollards have a 1/2" thick steel exterior then 35,000 ft-lbs concrete with rebar reinforcement.

It isn’t possible to cut through all of that easily or quickly and certainly not with a cordless power tool unless you brought along a whole lot of batteries.

WildRose · 2019-11-05T12:09:23.990Z

Those aren’t cordless tools and you’d burn up many boxes of those blades attempting to cut through the bollards running them dry.

A very expensive, loud, time consuming activity.

Camp · 2019-11-05T12:14:53.215Z

That article is full of fake news. That is the old design fence only 20 feet high and with about 15 feet of chain link fence on the Mexico side.

My perspective is that these efforts just emphasize the necessity of the barrier and the need to improve electronic monitoring to get to the actors vandalizing it ASAP.

Vigilante · 2019-11-05T14:21:20.223Z

Everybdh in Mexico has s gas generator. No problem