Simple Questions for the Gun Control Crowd

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Auto129

A private service would probably focus on places where there’s a history of extremism

Okay. Imagine Coeur d’Alene City in Idaho.

@Auto129

and follow links

What links? How does the algorithm get them? Is it wandering around looking for them on the open internet?

[Samm]

@Auto129

With facial recognition, and AI scraping his social media, mall security could be just as prepared for a normal looking guy too. Lens can identify clothes in the background of a selfie, and that’s free.

All without any constitutional issues.

No reason that guy should be able to walk in the door with security unaware after publicly posting literal reconnaissance photos.

Profiling by appearance would probably lead to a lot of false concern by security followed by a lot of lawsuits by the falsely accused.

Personally, I would avoid patronizing any store in a Mall that used AI to identify me and track my every action from the moment I got out of my car in the parking lot until the moment I drove away. Enough people do the same thing and the stores in complex will close and the Mall will go bankrupt.

[Auto129]

I don’t know how it would work, I can’t answer these questions. I think it’s technically possible to scrape social media and build profiles with current technology. I think that everything obvious in hindsight after these rampages will become obvious ahead of time to machines reading their social media.

I don’t know anything more detailed than that.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

I see. Thank you.

[Auto129]

@Samm

Personally, I would avoid patronizing any store in a Mall that used AI to identify me and track my every action from the moment I got out of my car in the parking lot until the moment I drove away. Enough people do the same thing and the stores in complex will close and the Mall will go bankrupt

Children who grew up in the Bush surveillance state will have more tolerance for this technology. Obvious in hindsight murders–like last week’s the mall shooting–will become less tolerable as they become more frequent. The security measures we’re discussing will become profitable very soon.

[Samm]

Good for them … good little sheep.

[WuWei]

Yes, data collection is possible. Warning is possible.

What use is it without action?

[WuWei]

@Auto129

The security measures we’re discussing will become profitable very soon.

You aren’t discussing “security measures”, you’re discussing data collection. Knowing is half the battle. Only half.

[WuWei]

@WuWei

Yes, data collection is possible. Warning is possible.

What use is it without action?

For example: We know pretty much how many people are crossing illegally. We know pretty much how many are waiting for Title 42 to end. We pretty much know what’s going to happen.

Ok, we know. Now we… what?

[zantax]

People like Auto are going to welcome our AGI overlords with open arms.

[NCREDSTATE]

With your line of posts here, I’m curious about your take on James Dolan using facial recognition to enforce his persona non grata list. The State of New York even threatened to take his liquor licenses over it.

[Auto129]

Half is fine. Not trying to solve the whole problem everywhere at once. No harm in the mall knowing ahead of time what we know about the shooter now from his public postings.

[Auto129]

Dolan doesn’t seem to busing it in an illegally discriminatory so I don’t have a problem with it. No sympathy to spare for bunch of lawyers crying about their night out being ruined.

[Samm]

@Auto129

Half is fine. Not trying to solve the whole problem everywhere at once. No harm in the mall knowing ahead of time what we know about the shooter now from his public postings.

The half you are offering solves absolutely nothing. Without the second half, you may as well not waste the time, effort or money to do the first half.

[Auto129]

I disagree.
More information can be very useful.
It might not require a lot of time money or effort to collect.

[Samm]

No. The key words there are “can be.” Information not acted on may be interesting and have potential, but it’s not useful. To be useful it must be used. That’s what the word means.

[Auto129]

Okay.
More information has value.

[Samm]

Potential value … perhaps.

[Auto129]

Likely value.

If someone could have the information we know now, with reconnaissance photos and everything, a month before the shooting, I believe there is a very good chance they would want it.

It’s no longer impossible.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

How do you imagine this playing out? Gather all this info, and then go to court with a red flag request?