Simple Questions for the Gun Control Crowd

WuWei · 2023-05-09T12:40:56.300Z

There are legal reasons.

WuWei · 2023-05-09T12:41:52.875Z

Auto129:

and warn the mall.

And then what?

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T12:44:18.646Z

What are the legal reasons?

zantax · 2023-05-09T13:02:49.278Z

Auto129:

All of that information was posted on social media. Gathering it together is not unconstitutional.

Still a violation of the fourth amendment.

from https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/5/more-unconstitutional-us-government-spying-and-lyi/

Also last week, the USPS revealed that its postal inspectors have been monitoring social media at random, looking for troublemakers. Since social media is publicly posted, you and I can read it at will. But the Fourth Amendment requires that the government have “articulable suspicion” about the person whose social media is being surveilled before it begins its surveillance — even surveillance of publicly available materials. This is to prevent fishing expeditions.

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T13:03:54.625Z

Ideally, it works out like this because they’re ready for him.

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T13:08:59.666Z

Unlike rounding people up, gathering that information doesn’t require government involvement. There are no constitutional issues.

WuWei · 2023-05-09T16:08:57.796Z

See @zantax

WuWei · 2023-05-09T16:09:31.541Z

WuWei:

Auto129:

and warn the mall.

And then what?

And then what?

Samm · 2023-05-09T20:53:19.036Z

Auto129:

Unlike rounding people up, gathering that information doesn’t require government involvement. There are no constitutional issues.

And in the case of your video, it’s pretty easy for security to keep an eye on the guy wearing a wolf mask without violating any of his rights.

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T22:25:42.558Z

With facial recognition, and AI scraping his social media, mall security could be just as prepared for a normal looking guy too. Lens can identify clothes in the background of a selfie, and that’s free.

All without any constitutional issues.

No reason that guy should be able to walk in the door with security unaware after publicly posting literal reconnaissance photos.

zantax · 2023-05-09T22:38:17.830Z

Auto129:

With facial recognition, and AI scraping his social media, mall security could be just as prepared for a normal looking guy too. Lens can identify clothes in the background of a selfie, and that’s free.

All without any constitutional issues.

The first company that packaged this together for me would get my money, if I owned a mall.

What good would that do, so you know someone who entered your mall said radical things online but he is already there and armed, it’s not like most of them are going to lay out the time and date far enough in advance to be prepared.

Guvnah · 2023-05-09T22:39:55.331Z

Auto129:

No reason that guy should be able to walk in the door with security unaware after publicly posting literal reconnaissance photos.

If you’re talking about the mall shooter, he didn’t walk into any building.

Just saying…

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T22:39:59.923Z

It would do plenty good. That cannot be a serious question.

zantax · 2023-05-09T22:40:57.121Z

Auto129:

It would do plenty good. That cannot be a serious question.

Explain, mall security isn’t even armed.

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T22:42:26.087Z

We’ll have plenty of examples of just that before this thread reaches its bump limit.

WuWei · 2023-05-09T23:13:36.635Z

He didn’t walk in the door.

WuWei · 2023-05-09T23:14:36.915Z

Auto129:

It would do plenty good. That cannot be a serious question.

What do you expect to happen after the “mall” is warned?

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T23:24:54.722Z

Preparation.

WuWei · 2023-05-09T23:26:10.658Z

Auto129:

Preparation.

To do what?

Auto129 · 2023-05-09T23:30:54.726Z

That’s up to the mall. The warning has value enough, in my opinion.