sikofit
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Apparently you unaware about the recent advancements made with perovskites.
Does that mean you agree solar panels have not been green so far?..
sikofit
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No it does not. It means that I acknowledge the technology is constantly improving
Here’s a nice article on solar panels…
" Solar energy is green. Solar panels are not. AI can revolutionise their design
January 31, 2019 by Cathy Chen"
" Solar panels are manufactured at 2,000˚C , a temperature so high it requires fossil-fuel power. They are also made using rare earth elements , the supply of which has both capacity and political issues. A new and global project is using artificial intelligence (AI) to rapidly create new designs with new materials that can make their manufacture greener and cheaper . The new designs may even bring their manufacture back to your home country, says Cathy Chen of Global Shapers ."
I guess they figure no human could ever solve the problem of non-green solar panels, so perhaps a big brains (AI)…Which of course does not exist. + More fantasy! Like socialism working, and Russian collusion…
You should use science… Like article I just posted
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Jezcoe
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If the petroleum producing companies didn’t also have subsidies then maybe you would have a point.
But they do… so you don’t.
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LOL… that’s them admitting I am correct. They are not green.
What kind of subsidies do oil companies get?
That’s just means you don’t know… Thanks…
sikofit
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No it means the feigned naiveté is astounding
Notice when I put up an article I post the point from the article that makes my case. Since you didn’t do that I expect It’s not in there…
Jezcoe
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Another enormous subsidy is not having priced in the full cost of environmental impact of it’s use.
sikofit
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This is my point. The US paid over $20B in fossil fuel subsidies a year
A report from Oil Change International (OCI) investigated American energy industry subsidies and found that in 2015–2016, the federal government provided $14.7bn per year to the oil, gas, and coal industries, on top of $5.8bn of state-level incentives (sglobally, the figure is around $500bn). And the report only accounted for production subsidies, excluding consumption subsidies (support to consumers to lower the cost of fossil fuel use – another $14.5bn annually) as well as the costs of carbon and other fossil fuel pollutants.
That’s the kind of stuff I figured you guys called subsidy…
sikofit
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A subsidy is a subsidy is a subsidy. Please describe how they are different. No matter how you slice it the US government is putting $20SBn a year in the pockets of the fossil fuel industry
If you ever explain the oil company subsidies so we can understand what you mean, I will…
So basically they seem to agree solar energy is not Green, but just argue "so what’, “the Oil companies get some kind of subsidy too”…
Which is probably just writing off the cost of production like all business
