As a political persecution. Had Trump not been elected president, there would be no investigation, and it won’t go beyond the trump org to see if other companies at the same time did the same thing.

Yeah. Funny how this works.

At first they say he’s never been charged with anything.

Then when he’s charged they say it’s only because of politics.

There’s no winning.

Doing things attracts attention. If you have skeletons in your closet, it’s more likely you’ll be found out. It has nothing to do with politics.

You are correct. Had Trump not won, he would not be the subject of anyone looking into a financial past that he obviously wants to keep hidden.

I think that it is hard to argue that when evidence of wrong doing is found, that a legal entity looking into that is political persecution.

No one made Trump run for President and expose himself to scrutiny.

Then he should not have run for President. Get real for a moment, anyone entering public life is going to come under more scrutiny that a private citizen.

You and other Trump supporters just make continual excuses for him. And I thought conservatives prided themselves on personal responsibility.

Goal posts exist for a reason.

To move them.

That’s why they added those little wheels to the bottom of them—to accommodate shifting moral stances.

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How smart is Trump. What idiot who has all sorts of shady background says, you know what, I’ll draw the most attention to myself as possible?

except he hasn’t been charged with anything yet. It’s just a political hack investigation of something 30 years ago that the person I’ve been talking with says it’s unlikely charges would be filed.

BUT it gets the information out, then people will start calling for impeachment over something that happened 30 years ago.

If is to be considered anything new , I would like to refer you to Whitewater… which was a lot less sketchy than what President Trump has involved himself in.

It’s quaint even.

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The thread is about workers either being furloughed or required to work with no pay while bills are due (rent, utilities, care payments, insurance, medical expenses, food, etc.).

Could you open your own thread on Trump fraud.

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White water was a nothing burger compared to the futures scandal.

Tell me how could she have TWO brokerage accounts. Trades in one makes her 100 grand. Yet in the second she lost a couple of grand.

Yet hillar claims she made ALL the trades in the first account . . . err she had a little help . . . err she didn’t know that trades were being made on her behalf . . . .

Considering the one that made 100 grand had dealings with her husbands gubernatorial administration.

Yet with all this evidence Trump has never instructed his DOJ to take any action with Hillary. I now await your excuse as to why Trump could not do this or did not do this.

Well… you see… that took place in 1979.

Certainly looking into something that happened fifteen years before she became First Lady is political persecution.

Statute of limitation is well over on the futures scandal.

I don’t advocate any charges, or even an investigation. It was to show whitewater was a nothing burger to the person who posted about it (and I used it as part of the long line of reasoning as to why she shouldn’t have been elected president during the presidential campaign.)

Whitewater … and basically all of the Clinton scandals were tempests in a teapot.

That doesn’t mean that the citizens of the United States do not have a right as to activities of their elected leaders and members of the government.

It isn’t political persecution to look into the hidden financials of the President, it is responsible vetting.

No one makes anyone run for President.

If they choose to hide their financial and business interests… people are still going to go looking for them. No one is going to say… oh well… I guess we will never know what is hidden behind that door that the President closed.

That isn’t how any of this works.

To get back on topic, as WorldWatcher requested, I could last several years without a paycheck, but if I were working for the federal government, I doubt that I’d have my current financial situation.

I’m sure many of those folks work paycheck to paycheck, and I’d be willing to bet that in the grand scheme of political maneuvers, the sort that keeps me from paying my rent or buying food for my kids is the kind of ploy that could lead me to switching political parties for good.

I don’t think that Trump thought things through.

Nancy could open the govt anytime for a measly 5.7 billion. BUt, she’s hiding behind the walls of her NAPA compound…

How does it feel to be on the side of the guy taking hostages?

Republican arguments are sounding more and more like Bitcoin demands in ransomware.

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Okay lets see how you react to this.

Apparently McConnell has a bill ready to go in the Senate that will add money for the wall and re-open the governmetn.

Now say he brings it to the floor and the D’s filabuster (meaning it needs 60 votes to be voted on). Now say it goes to a vote and say all Repubublicans vote to proceed to a vote, and a couple of D’s do as well but it falls shourt of the 60 needed . . . . does it THEN becaome the fault of the Democrats that the government remains shut down? Or say it somehow reaches the magic number of 60, then passes the senate and returns to the house and Pelosi refuses a vote on it. How would you feel then? Would you continue to blame Trump and republicans, or would you change then and start to blame the dems?