Should the President suspend habeas corpus and arrest those invading our borders?

[Sewell]

I fully support Trump suspending habeas corpus in any and all situations.

[Excast]

If any Democrat, let alone Obama, had dared to even bring this up as a possibility, we would have had 97 Jade Helm conspiracy threads on the forum within an hour.

[TheRedComet]

That he did.

With that said they were facing the greatest crisis this country has ever seen. Half of the country seceded and started a war.

I don’t agree with the methods but I can understand why everyone went along with it considering the circumstances they were facing.

[Blackwolf]

@7ranz

The party that spent their time saying gays shouldn’t be allowed to get married because it would lead to dog marriage?

Time will tell on that one, buddy. When John Q. Pervert is legally marrying his chihuahua, we’re all gonna owe Santorum an apology.

MakeAmericaGreatDaneAgain

[7ranz]

@Blackwolf

@7ranz

The party that spent their time saying gays shouldn’t be allowed to get married because it would lead to dog marriage?

Time will tell on that one, buddy. When John Q. Pervert is legally marrying his chihuahua, we’re all gonna owe Santorum an apology.

MakeAmericaGreatDaneAgain

[AmusedObserver]

@Blackwolf

Dear Donald:

This is brilliant advice. Please suspend habeas corpus, and declare martial law. It would make you the greatest president since probably Lincoln.

“Probably”? “Since”??

I should flag this post for disrespect to Trump.

[Forcefield]

You know what? ■■■■ it, sure. May as well double down on the insanity now while the ship is sinking.

[ThrowCop]

Some people hate brown people so ******* much it causes retardation.

[mobiusptc]

[Blackwolf]

Do eeet.

[Blackwolf]

That picture always cracks me up - looks like someone genetically spliced Donald with Alfred E. Newman.

“What, me worry?”

[Rurudyne]

As with all high handed lawlessness, if the argument about why something they want to do are so correct, obvious and needful it should be relatively easy to win the public debate to do it the correct way.

That included this instance to all the illegal programs or power grabs of the FDR era andto the present day.

[dderatz]

Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that suspension of habeas corpus is an Article I power of Congress. Lincoln’s suspension of habeas was illegal, and was only legitimized by Congress passing legislation that not only granted that power for so long as the Civil War continued, but also immunized Lincoln for the original and illegal suspension. There being no current statutory authority, Trump cannot suspend habeas corpus.

[H_Arendt]

Before taking on Habeas Corpus, Trump should end the stupid shutdown so that the Border Patrol Agents who will have to make the arrests are getting paid!

Unless Johnwk meant it literally that Trump himself should be the one making all the arrests. Great idea, but I am afraid his bone spurs will make it impossible for him to do that.

[AngraMainyu]

@johnwk2

Under our Constitution [Article 1, Section 9] we find "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."

We have seen how local public servants and judicial activists on our courts have ignored the very intentions of our Constitution, turned the Constitution into a suicide pack, and are now allowing our country to be overrun with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, criminal and diseased populations of other countries. The social and economic consequences of allowing this invasion to take place have been devastating to American citizens and their communities, and yet, our courts and local public servants continue to ignore the general welfare of the United States and her citizens by blocking every reasonable means to end this invasion in its tracks.

And so, the question ought to be discussed if it is reasonable for the president to suspend the writ of habeas corpus, as applied to the current invasion of our borders, which in turn would stop, among other impediments, judicial meddling when our president executes a fundamental duty written into our Constitution which is to repel invasions.

In exercising this power, not only can this swarm of invaders be detained indefinitely with minimal necessities for life, but those who actively ignore federal statutory law, such as 8 U.S. Code § 1324, [harboring] can likewise be arrested and immediately prosecuted for their criminal conduct.

Keep in mind extra ordinary circumstances sometime demand extraordinary actions. And under our present circumstances, where the flood of invaders has overwhelmed ordinary protective measures and policies designed to protect our borders and the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, and to such a degree that thousands upon thousands of foreigners are now being introduced into our population without knowing who they are or what their real motive are, it seems to be only a matter of self-preservation that our President suspend habeas corpus, with regard to immigration, and assume his responsibility to repel this ongoing invasion.

JWK

There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and then conquer a prosperous and freedom loving people than by allowing and encouraging the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, criminal and diseased populations of other countries to invade that country, and make the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such invaders.

Id rather take a million illegals than read these disgustingly authoritarian threads.

[tnt]

I think I found the thread filled with all the Christians.

[Rurudyne]

Well, most everyone. I wasn’t ignoring it.

That’s the thing with Arbitrary government: once you’re okay with government continuing to do things it has unlawfully gotten away with you have thrown away a large chunk of your arguments as to why government shouldn’t get away with more lawlessness.

Long established lawlessness doesn’t become lawful simply because it’s been around a long time, not even if people are depending on it does it become lawful.

[Rurudyne]

Mass graves?

Have you been skipping your Over The Top Rhetoric Anonymous meetings…

[AngraMainyu]

@Rurudyne

Mass graves?

Have you been skipping your Over The Top Rhetoric Anonymous meetings…

It’s truly a ridiculous assertion. This country has never engaged in such activity.

[Rurudyne]

We have inflicted Ishtar and Highlander 2 on the world, but, yeah, nothing like that.

Edit: while I’m at things we’ve inflicted … the throne room brawl from The Last Jedi reminded me of fight scenes from Power Rangers if only they’d had a big budget. Rita Repulsa would kick Snoke’s ass.