GWH
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I see crosshairs. Go for the leg! Lol.
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WuWei
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What she thought she had in her hand.
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I donāt think she is at all. I probably took a very convoluted path to us agreeing
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The same ā ā ā ā Iāve seen before at a high school. Knifes, pencils, rocks, modified sporkā¦
Difference is I was not able to use lethal force. Nor did I need it.
This coo had more option than I would have had in the same situation. This cop choose a gunā¦
WuWei
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What do you see? Not in your mind, in the picture.
WuWei
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It is a complicated situation.
GWH
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She shouldnāt have been a cop. Like you said, either she thought it was a taser or is very, very evil. Theyāre hard to mistake for each other, and the jury will decide. Iām hoping for a complete lack of awareness and gross negligence on her part, because I just donāt like the world where itās the alternative.
GWH
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Weāre you a teacher on a prison yard? That āschoolā needs to clean up the shivs.
modified spork lol.
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WuWei
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It is practically impossible not to get amped up in that situation.
Of course there is an element of fear. I donāt assess her as out of control - āTaser, Taser, Taser!ā.
You have to understand the physiological and mental reactions to stress to know.
Fine motor skills degrade. Auditory exclusion. Tunnel vision.
I see a girl swinging a knife at another girl. I have no context why. This after watching her wrestle with the other girl firstā¦
I would not know obviously. Just making a civilian judgment call. Same thing with the guy who shot the girl in the broken window. I donāt know but it doesnāt look good.
I coached at a HS school in one of the lowest income cities where I live. Some kids just donāt give a ā ā ā ā ā
The kids with the shaved spork also had a dad and uncle in prison. Iām sure he learned from them.
tzu
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How many of those children ever had the opportunity to go into the woods, or relax by a remote lake with nothing to do or worry about?
Most of them have never been outside of a 5 mile radius of their home.
Lots were foster kids as well. Thatās a whole different situation
tzu
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I come out of a poorly funded foster/juvenile services system. This, I understand.
He arrived at the scene and the girl was fixing to stab the potential victim. He ordered her to drop the weapon and she didnāt. She was lunging at her. What else was he supposed to do?
WuWei
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I wonāt judge her that harshly. She was a cop for years and apparently adequate. Right up until she ran into the wrong situation.
She failed and made a horrible, horrible mistake that led to a horrible outcome. Sheās human. And now she canāt be a cop anymore. Ever.
To me ānegligenceā requires some level of intent - to omit or commit. I donāt think that is there in her case. Her intention was to do the appropriate use of force. The outcome was not what she intended.
What did she neglect to do?
Itās an error trap. When you hang non-lethal and lethal on the same belt, the potential is always there. You depend on the operator to get it right 100% of the time - unrealistic expectation of humans. Machines are dependable, humans are adaptable.
We tell them to put the Taser next to the gun and adapt to the situation 100% of the time. There is no fail safe there - because to install one would be to diminish the adaptability or the reaction time in situations where there already isnāt any reaction time to give up.
It is a fatal accident.
What if she had need the gun and pulled the Taser instead?
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zantax
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I would assume he means that it being a close range melee weapon you would normally have to pursue someone to stab them and that makes for no self defense claim. Of course someone could come in to range while attacking you as well. But if you are the one closing the distance you are the aggressor. Could be wrong though, just a guess.
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WuWei
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Swinging a knife? Sheās not swinging it in that picture. What do you see?