Should the 2020 census exclude non-citizens?

WuWei · 2018-10-15T18:54:27.719Z

bullseyelqcs:

Non citizens who own property pay property taxes. While I could accept them not inherently voting in federal elections, I think they should have a right to vote on the local issues that will affect thier property.

How do illegals buy property?

WuWei · 2018-10-15T18:55:54.992Z

bullseyelqcs:

How so?

If that is the case, blame the local authorities for allowing that to happen, as its not supposed to happen.

Do you really not know how this is done? About the subculture? What state do you live in?

Who pays the local “authorities”?

bullseyelqcs · 2018-10-15T19:21:35.521Z

Again…non citizens are not always illegal.

bullseyelqcs · 2018-10-15T19:22:47.984Z

I live in Colorado Springs…theres probably 50 or so bodegas, so yeah, I know about the culture.

WuWei · 2018-10-15T19:23:20.710Z

Never said they were. Illegals are.

WuWei · 2018-10-15T19:23:36.079Z

bullseyelqcs:

I live in Colorado Springs…theres probably 50 or so bodegas, so yeah, I know about the culture.

Then yes you do.

Sknyluv · 2018-10-15T19:24:26.177Z

WuWei:

Horse hockey.

LoL. Ok. You run with that.

WuWei · 2018-10-15T19:24:29.863Z

bullseyelqcs:

I live in Colorado Springs…theres probably 50 or so bodegas, so yeah, I know about the culture.

Pretty country by the way, congratulations.

bullseyelqcs · 2018-10-15T19:47:54.404Z

You asked how illegals bought property. I expressly stated that non citizens can and do buy property, and they do pay property taxes on those properties.

That was in response to you saying you would agree on sales tax, but not others. They most certainly do pay other taxes.

bullseyelqcs · 2018-10-15T19:48:19.128Z

Yeah…been here 27 years and plan on staying…lol

Konssurvative1 · 2018-10-15T19:48:22.473Z

How else are we going to know who is here but shouldn’t be?

WuWei · 2018-10-15T20:06:37.357Z

bullseyelqcs:

You asked how illegals bought property. I expressly stated that non citizens can and do buy property, and they do pay property taxes on those properties.

That was in response to you saying you would agree on sales tax, but not others. They most certainly do pay other taxes.

You keep convoluting “non-citizens” with illegals. Why?

bullseyelqcs · 2018-10-15T20:39:45.058Z

Me?

It wasnt me who asked how illegals were buying property. That was you. I made the correct statement that non citizens can buy property and pay property taxes…you then asked the above question.

Do you smell toast?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2018-10-15T21:13:05.347Z

WuWei:

They have their own stores.

They do?

I’ve lived around illegal immigrants most of my life - I even dated a girl whose father was undocumented for a couple of years - and they shop at the same stores as everyone else.

WuWei · 2018-10-15T23:06:20.540Z

bullseyelqcs:

Me?

It wasnt me who asked how illegals were buying property. That was you. I made the correct statement that non citizens can buy property and pay property taxes…you then asked the above question.

Do you smell toast?

You just did it again.

WuWei · 2018-10-15T23:07:12.413Z

Yes, they do.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2018-10-15T23:08:01.888Z

No, they don’t. Are you talking about bodegas?

bullseyelqcs · 2018-10-15T23:15:28.178Z

Seriously…Im worried about you now.

You are making less sense than usual.

Bill.in.PA · 2018-10-15T23:55:17.760Z

Here is what the fourteenth amendment says:

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed.

LII / Legal Information Institute

14th Amendment

Congress is free to say who is actually “in each state”. Under the current rules, a foreign tourist is not counted unless they violate federal law and overstay their visit. Congress simply needs to change the law to classify non-citizens without permanent residency status as “visitors”.

Hellsbane · 2018-10-16T00:33:09.403Z

I have no idea what the founders were thinking when they did not exclude non-citizens from the census. They could have done the same thing they did for those wanting to run for federal office and grandfather in the 1st few gens of US Americans.