Should Public Schools Be Teaching Morality?

[WorldWatcher]

@WuWei

And you have been told what happened at the DMV.

No.

You have made claims about what you “heard” happened at the DMV, you have provided no supporting evidence of your claims and in fact have been shown proof that your claim of the requirement is false.

So the law is posted above, please show the section that requires minors to provide a “report card” (i.e. general classes attended and grade results) as a condition of being issued a learners permit.

If its the law, it will be right there in the link of the law which I even provided for you.

WW

[Borgia_dude]

@WorldWatcher

@WuWei

It was a report card required. Turned away.

TRANSPORTATION CODE CHAPTER 521. DRIVER'S LICENSES AND CERTIFICATES

You have been shown information from DMV where they can be used as secondary proof of identification. The above link is the Texas Administrative Code concerning drivers licenses and it does not show that “report cards” (i.e. classes attended and grade results) are required for a minor to obtain a learners permit.

So, please show your work instead of “I heard today…”

Thank you in advance.

WW

Here you go for the VOE…

https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/driver-license/how-apply-texas-driver-license-teen

Under listed requirements for a permit (note it is not under ID requirements)

8. Verification of Enrollment and Attendance (VOE form) issued by a school, or a high school diploma or equivalent (GED).

[Borgia_dude]

I’m guessing sneaky’s county may require verification of enrollment but doesn’t have a nice form for it so they fall back on report cards.

[WorldWatcher]

@Borgia_dude

@WorldWatcher

@WuWei

It was a report card required. Turned away.

TRANSPORTATION CODE CHAPTER 521. DRIVER'S LICENSES AND CERTIFICATES

You have been shown information from DMV where they can be used as secondary proof of identification. The above link is the Texas Administrative Code concerning drivers licenses and it does not show that “report cards” (i.e. classes attended and grade results) are required for a minor to obtain a learners permit.

So, please show your work instead of “I heard today…”

Thank you in advance.

WW

Here you go…

How to Apply for a Texas Driver License as a Teen | Department of Public Safety

Under listed requirements for a permit (note it is not under ID requirements)

8. Verification of Enrollment and Attendance (VOE form) issued by a school, or a high school diploma or equivalent (GED).

Which fulfills the section of the law requiring verification of enrollment, not a “report card” (i.e. general classes attended and grade results).

" Sec. 521.204. RESTRICTIONS ON MINOR. (a) The department may issue a Class C driver’s license to an applicant under 18 years of age only if the applicant:
(1) is 16 years of age or older;
(2) has submitted to the department a driver education certificate issued under Section 1001.055, Education Code, that states that the person has completed and passed a driver education course approved by the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation;
(3) has obtained a high school diploma or its equivalent or is a student:
(A) enrolled in a public school, home school, or private school who attended school for at least 80 days in the fall or spring semester preceding the date of the driver’s license application; or
(B) who has been enrolled for at least 45 days, and is enrolled as of the date of the application, in a program to prepare persons to pass the high school equivalency exam;
(4) has submitted to the department written parental or guardian permission:
(A) for the department to access the applicant’s school enrollment records maintained by the Texas Education Agency; and
(B) for a school administrator or law enforcement officer to notify the department in the event that the person has been absent from school for at least 20 consecutive instructional days; and
(5) has passed the examination required by Section 521.161.
(b) The department may not issue a Class A, B, or C driver’s license other than a hardship license to an applicant under 18 years of age unless the applicant has held a learner license or hardship license for at least six months preceding the date of the application."

WW

[Borgia_dude]

@WorldWatcher

Which fulfills the section of the law requiring verification of enrollment, not a “report card” (i.e. general classes attended and grade results)

Yeah, I misread your post and thought you were also questioning the VOE requirement.

Am wondering if VOE is handled differently by county?

[WorldWatcher]

@Borgia_dude

@WorldWatcher

Which fulfills the section of the law requiring verification of enrollment, not a “report card” (i.e. general classes attended and grade results)

Yeah, I misread your post and thought you were also questioning the VOE requirement.

Am wondering if VOE is handled differently by county?

Possibly. A county may be able to use a report card as optional proof of enrollment, but they can’t require it as a condition of issuing a learners permit. Those are two different things.

So a parent and child go to the DMV, DMV clerk informs them they need proof of enrollment which could be the verification of enrollment form or a current report card. Using the report card for proof of enrollment is NOT required though under state law. The parent and child would simple need the VOE form.

Texas law does not require submission of a “report card” (i.e. general classes attended and grade results) as a condition of getting a learners permit.

WW

[WuWei]

Where does a public school get the morality it yearns to teach?

[Tom_Ch]

@WuWei

Where does a public school get the morality it yearns to teach?

Should school teach religion or religious teachings?

[WuWei]

@Tom_Ch

@WuWei

Where does a public school get the morality it yearns to teach?

Should school teach religion or religious teachings?

Public schools? Absolutely not.

[zantax]

@Tom_Ch

Basic Personal finance is definitely good. I would say should be MANDATORY. Some of these kids grew up in household where parents don’t know anything about finance. So where are they going to learn?

It will help them so much in their life.

Umm, gee I wonder where kids can find information…Not saying it shouldn’t be taught but the information itself is instantly available to anyone who cares enough to look. Not that it will do anyone without much of an ability to delay gratification any good. Because knowing and doing aren’t the same things.

[Tom_Ch]

@zantax

@Tom_Ch

Basic Personal finance is definitely good. I would say should be MANDATORY. Some of these kids grew up in household where parents don’t know anything about finance. So where are they going to learn?

It will help them so much in their life.

Umm, gee I wonder where kids can find information…Not saying it shouldn’t be taught but the information itself is instantly available to anyone who cares enough to look. Not that it will do anyone without much of an ability to delay gratification any good. Because knowing and doing aren’t the same things.

Of course it’s available on internet. So is geometry, civics, history and everything under the sun. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be taught in school. If that’s the case, let’s cancel school altogether and have YouTube and Facebook be our teachers.

[zantax]

You asked where else they could learn it, I answered.

[Tom_Ch]

@zantax

You asked where else they could learn it, I answered.

Yes agreed. We teach many subjects in high school snd college. Personal finance would be a great addition to the program. My parents didn’t really teach me. Neither did college. I was lucky that an older colleague advise me when I first started working.

[zantax]

@Tom_Ch

@zantax

You asked where else they could learn it, I answered.

Yes agreed. We teach many subjects in high school snd college. Personal finance would be a great addition to the program. My parents didn’t really teach me. Neither did college. I was lucky that an older colleague advise me when I first started working.

I just went to the library.