WuWei
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They attacked soldiers of the United States during the civil war. Accurate.
i think we should to 1 of 2 things
either a) give the land back to the sioux and let them decide or
b) give the sioux complete control of the visitors center with the freedom to put up exhibits showing the mistreatment of the sioux at the hands of the US.
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i cant find any documentation of the sioux fighting for the confederacy. i can find it for otehr tribes but not the sioux
conan
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I see…the fact remain goverment taken the land and sold it to you. It’s still Indian territory.
True, but not on the side of the Confederates. They were fighting for their own land.
go a few miles west of Rushmore and visit Crazy Horse
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WuWei
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They attacked yankee troops during the civil war, drawing much needed men and supplies away from freeing slaves. They killed women and children, forcing yankee troops to secure areas away from the fight against the confederacy. They were terrorists.
WuWei
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No. The fought to aid the confederacy. They paid bounties for US troops.
Ah yes. I recall Jack Crabb was widely suspected of being the go-between.
My great uncle was a cross country truck driver from the late 1920s-1980s and took thousands of pictures. Among the scenes of twisted train derailments and bridge collapses were several photos each of Mount Rushmore, Stone Mountain, Crazy Horse Memorial, all in the process of being created, along with other iconic sculpted monuments.
I was just a child when I first viewed them, marveling at the construction of the recognizable faces I’d seen in history books. I didn’t too much like the Stone Mountain depiction because it didn’t look right, like the dimension of the figures were off. The representation of Crazy Horse looked like a weathered pyramid in Egypt because it was taken from a distance and a bit blurry.
I never ever deemed Mount Rushmore as a contemptible insult to any “racist” connotations being angrily espoused since last week. I always considered it a monumental work of art.
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it may be a work of art but it is on stolen land
by that definition the continental army were terrorists. especially at the beginning
i wonder how upset people would be if for example the church of the holy sepulchre in Jerusalem were to be razed to build a statue. or the alamo in texas.
both sacred spaces. just as the black hills are sacred to the lakota sioux.
You are aware that the Indians more than likely took it away from people here before them?
The losers in conflicts have no real claims on anything.
I think we change nothing concerning Mt Rushmore. Nada, Zip.
Of course I’m aware of that. The Lakota hadn’t really occupied that land for very many years after being chased west by Americans.
They took the land by warfare fair and square. It was now theirs.
They lost the Black Hills when the US unilaterally tore up the legal mutually-agreed upon Treaty of Ft. Laramie and invaded.
Treaties are contracts and they reneged. Contract law is a basic tenet of Conservatism so I don’t understand why some people can’t admit what really happened.
so you’re in favor of tearing down every single confederate statue. removing every confederate flag.
since the losers have no real claims to anything…
