Should mt rushmore be removed?

[Impenitent]

first known owners…

[Samm]

@kermode

@gooddad409

They took it away from someone else and we took it from them. No difference.

So violating a legal contract without consequence is acceptable to Conservatives?
I don’t know if you are one, but I could see how that would be OK with Trump supporters.

Name the National Park that didn’t once belong to one Tribe or another?

[CanadianJudo]

@Samm

@moonshine

@gooddad409

@kermode

No. He tried to defend his sovereign nation against foreign invaders.
Same as the defenders of Wake Island.

Yep our Founding Fathers were insurgents/rebels/traitors against their country.
They became Patriots when they established their own sovereign nation.

You are aware that the Indians more than likely took it away from people here before them?

The losers in conflicts have no real claims on anything.

so you’re in favor of tearing down every single confederate statue. removing every confederate flag.
since the losers have no real claims to anything…

Again with the backwards example. Nobody is suggesting removing any Lakota monuments.

private land ownership is cool till the government say your not allowed to own it anymore.

[CanadianJudo]

@Samm

@kermode

@gooddad409

They took it away from someone else and we took it from them. No difference.

So violating a legal contract without consequence is acceptable to Conservatives?
I don’t know if you are one, but I could see how that would be OK with Trump supporters.

Name the National Park that didn’t once belong to one Tribe or another?

private ownership is a right, unless its Indians.

[Impenitent]

@CanadianJudo

private ownership is a right, unless its Indians.

especially God given rights and manifest destiny

[CanadianJudo]

It was gold the tribe kept killing prosecutors who enter their lands. Govenment got mad started a war end of the story they built a gold mine

[Samm]

@AZslim

@Sherry_H

My great uncle was a cross country truck driver from the late 1920s-1980s and took thousands of pictures. Among the scenes of twisted train derailments and bridge collapses were several photos each of Mount Rushmore, Stone Mountain, Crazy Horse Memorial, all in the process of being created, along with other iconic sculpted monuments.

I was just a child when I first viewed them, marveling at the construction of the recognizable faces I’d seen in history books. I didn’t too much like the Stone Mountain depiction because it didn’t look right, like the dimension of the figures were off. The representation of Crazy Horse looked like a weathered pyramid in Egypt because it was taken from a distance and a bit blurry.

I never ever deemed Mount Rushmore as a contemptible insult to any “racist” connotations being angrily espoused since last week. I always considered it a monumental work of art.

I never liked the fact that that a whole mountain was defaced.

If you thought those barren rock edifices were so beautiful, why didn’t you do something to prevent the sculpture at the time? [/sarcasm]

Your sense of beauty is yours and yours alone. You have no right to demand that it be abided over anyone else’s. If you don’t like how it looks, don’t look at it.

[DMK]

@AZslim

All legal pressure including peaceful protests should be put on officials to remove them.

It should be voted on if public property. Public property doesn’t belong to a bunch of spoiled, uneducated idots to do with as they please.

The hammer needs to come down on this type of behavior.

[Samm]

@DougBH

@moonshine

are any on those on land stolen by the government?

From a native American standpoint, all of it was stolen.
Everything.

Exactly … and most of their land was stolen from other Indians. It’s the same all over the world.

[CanadianJudo]

They only want the land given to them by treaty. When American settled there they signed agreements they want those agreement met

[DMK]

@WildRose

I like that one, I may borrow it from time to time if you don’t mind.

Feel free, my friend

[DMK]

Pretty cool stuff.

[DMK]

@WildRose

went off the reservation

There is a reason that term still exists today.

[Samm]

@moonshine

the people whos land its on want the monument removed

The word “sacred” does not mean the same thing to Indians as it does to non-Indians. In Indian culture, everything in nature is sacred. But Indians have certainly exploited non-Indian understanding of the word. It comes up in every protest that they ever launch against anything that non-Indians want to do because they know that liberals (who ironically, often disrespect the sacred beliefs of Christians) will jump on the bandwagon to support them.

[Samm]

@13BU6

Lycian tombs in Turkey

The Taliban thought this natural rock sculpture was ugly …

They would fit right in with American “erase history” liberals.

[DMK]

@Samm

Adverse possession.

“You don’t know what you’ve got 'till it’s gone… They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.”

Wonder how much was by means of Eminent Domain.

Counting Crows - Big Yellow Taxi ft. Vanessa Carlton (Official Video)

[Samm]

@LucyLou

That has bothered me too.

I don’t want it removed, but I would enjoy nature being allowed to slowly do it’s thing.

“Many worry that Mount Rushmore must erode at an alarming rate, and require an extreme amount of maintenance. However, the actual rate of erosion is only 1 inch for every 10,000 years. Nobody is even paid to clean the monument.”

Incredibly Interesting Mount Rushmore Facts

[DMK]

@Samm

By the way, do you know how the Sioux got that land? By defeating the Cheyenne who lived there before them … who had taken the land from the Kiowa.

It is the harsh way of the world. Look at what China is trying to do today in India.

I wonder if there is a driver’s test for looking in your review mirror rather than what is on the road ahead of you?

[Samm]

Mt. Rushmore is a Confederate monument? I never knew that …

[DMK]

@CanadianJudo

are you suggesting the government shouldn’t honor signed treaties.

That wasn’t the question, was it.

If anyone home or business belonged at one time to Indians, should they give it back?

That is the moral backbone of the OP’s argument.