Should Convicted Felons be Allowed to Vote?

WuWei · 2018-05-31T23:57:47.891Z

No. He moves here he’s yours.

WildRose · 2018-05-31T23:57:51.408Z

Just think Lou, if they get it done you’ll owe me for life.

LouC · 2018-06-01T00:04:44.647Z

WildRose:

Just think Lou, if they get it done you’ll owe me for life.

Oye!

I don’t have much of a life, but you are welcome to it.

Safiel · 2018-06-01T03:56:21.987Z

reflechissez:

Should citizens who are not allowed to vote be required to pay taxes?

The ones that are in the permanent disqualification from voting under my proposal are unlikely to ever pay taxes again during their lives or at least during a major portion of their remaining life.

reflechissez · 2018-06-01T04:11:08.086Z

Safiel:

reflechissez:

Should citizens who are not allowed to vote be required to pay taxes?

The ones that are in the permanent disqualification from voting under my proposal are unlikely to ever pay taxes again during their lives or at least during a major portion of their remaining life.

Ok. But that doesn’t answer my question.

DougBH · 2018-06-01T05:25:54.037Z

reflechissez:

Should citizens who are not allowed to vote be required to pay taxes?

Of course. If they use roads and are protected by the police etc. IN fact, they have demonstrated a greater tendency to spend tax dollars on prisons than most.
On the other hand, if they have shown a tendency to believe certain crimes of moral turpitude or fine with them, I don’t particularly want them to have a say in passing our legislation.

ToT · 2018-06-01T05:47:38.382Z

Hadn’t thought about treason, espionage, etc. Those would be worthy of a permanent loss, but everything else I would say restore upon completion of sentence.

WildRose · 2018-06-01T06:06:08.788Z

Not to mention all the tax dollars spent trying, convicting, and incarcerating them.

SixFoot · 2019-03-20T12:40:57.464Z

LouC:

WildRose:

If they can’t help you I’ll be shocked right out of my shorts and I mean that.

I think in the past you just dealt with lazy lawyers. These guys aren’t and their rates are very reasonable.

My family has used them since my granddad loaned the original partner some money to open the firm 80 plus years ago.

Cool! And thanks again! I will keep you posted with what they say.

Any updates yet?

zantax · 2019-03-20T13:17:36.133Z

I don’t think we have much to worry about in the people convicted of treason voting category. Here is the complete list of them.

from List of people convicted of treason - Wikipedia

Philip Vigol and John Mitchell, convicted of treason and sentenced to hanging; pardoned by George Washington; see Whiskey Rebellion.

John Fries, the leader of Fries’ Rebellion, convicted of treason in 1800 along with two accomplices, and pardoned that same year by John Adams.

Governor Thomas Dorr 1844, convicted of treason against the state of Rhode Island; see Dorr Rebellion; released in 1845; civil rights restored in 1851; verdict annulled in 1854.

John Brown, convicted of treason against the Commonwealth of Virginia in 1859 and executed for attempting to organize armed resistance to slavery.

Aaron Dwight Stevens, took part in John Brown’s raid and was executed in 1860 for treason against Virginia.

William Bruce Mumford, convicted of treason and hanged in 1862 for tearing down a United States flag during the American Civil War.

Walter Allen was convicted of treason on September 16, 1922 for taking part in the 1921 Miner’s March with the coal companies and the US Army on Blair Mountain, West Virginia. He was sentenced to 10 years and fined. During his appeal to the Supreme Court he disappeared while out on bail. United Mineworkers of America leader William Blizzard was acquitted of the charge of treason by the jury on May 25, 1922.[12]

Martin James Monti, United States Army Air Forces pilot, convicted of treason for defecting to the Waffen SS in 1944. He was paroled in 1960.

Robert Henry Best, convicted of treason on April 16, 1948 and served a life sentence.

Iva Toguri D’Aquino, who is frequently identified by the name “Tokyo Rose”, convicted 1949. Subsequently, pardoned by President Gerald Ford.

Mildred Gillars, also known as “Axis Sally”, convicted of treason on March 8, 1949; served 12 years of a 10- to 30-year prison sentence.

Tomoya Kawakita, sentenced to death for treason in 1952, but eventually released by President John F. Kennedy to be deported to Japan.

Herbert John Burgman, convicted of treason in 1949 during WWII for spreading Nazi propaganda.

I doubt there are more than one or two still alive and kicking.

SixFoot · 2019-03-20T13:20:56.560Z

ToT is one of Sewells other accounts and is suspended until 3019. lol

FlameHeart · 2019-03-20T18:42:14.425Z

IMO, felons should not be allowed to vote, ever, even after they served their time. They gave up their rights when they did the crime. Misdemeanors, that’s a different story I think, but those who have committed crimes as serious as felonies shouldn’t have a say in elections. And they shouldn’t own a gun.

SixFoot · 2019-03-20T19:03:00.101Z

So harsh. lol

If it helps though, it was incredibly difficult to get back on good terms with society for about 8 years after my time was served.

lulubee · 2019-03-20T19:07:14.590Z

SixFoot:

So harsh. lol

If it helps though, it was incredibly difficult to get back on good terms with society for about 8 years after my time was served.

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SixFoot · 2019-03-20T19:10:53.701Z

Are you confused about something, or would you like to partake in some dabs with me? I have plenty to share.

Now I’m the confused one. Gimme my meme back.

adroit · 2019-03-20T19:42:29.931Z

FlameHeart:

as serious as felonies

lol. You know some felonies really aren’t that serious…

Snow96 · 2019-03-20T23:39:49.836Z

WildRose:

Among other things he’s running a criminal background and warrant check.

Criminal background isn’t run on every traffic stop. Officer who does that . . . well they won’t be an officer for long

Snow96 · 2019-03-20T23:42:31.944Z

LouC:

That may be how it is now. When I got my ID stolen the laws were different. I can never separate his deeds from my record.

Sounds to me like the nice fine outstanding person who stole your identity committed a crime under your name and DOB that is on the NICS record.

Snow96 · 2019-03-20T23:45:36.343Z

WildRose:

Any record can be expunged Lou especially if you can prove you were not the one who committed the crime.

Lou’s name dob and ss number would be an alias on Mr. Dirtbags criminal history. There is no way Lou can petition to have it removed from Mr. Dirtbags Criminal history. The history would show the charge, name arrested under, and then court disposition.

With it like that, anytime Lou’s name is run for a criminal history, it hit’s on Mr. Dirtbag’s alias. If he used the SS number, even that becomes an alian for Mr. Dirtbag, and is linked forever to Lou.

Snow96 · 2019-03-20T23:47:15.692Z

WildRose:

Lou the guy is one of the top lawyers in the state, both one of the most respected attorneys but also one of the most respected prosecutors.

I guarantee you he could get it done.

More than likely, the probrlem isn’t Lous criminal history. His is probably clean (right Lou?? Lou?? hello?? just kidding). The problem is Mr. Dirtbags criminal history. And Lou can not petition to have something removed from mr. Dirtbags criminal history.