The Stupid Populism arguments don’t hold water. Every situation has its own unique fact pattern.
If you were an actor on a movie set, and the AD handed you a gun for a rehearsal and declared it was “cold”, I expect that you or I would be facing exactly the same criminal liability as Baldwin.
Apparently, the crew was doing quite a bit of target shooting near the set with live rounds, I wonder if Baldwin knew or even joined in and if any set guns were used. We do know they fou nd live ammo there.
Yes.
But as a Producer not making a safe work environment, he should be held accountable.
How do you know?
From what I’ve read, it was a (excuse the word) shot where he was shooting toward the camera position, where both the DP and director would be stationed.
Isn’t “Producer” just a vanity title (and salary) given to a lot of stars but they don’t really do anything producer-like?
On IDMB all these people are listed as some sort of producer. I am curious how they delineate roles and responsibilities.
Produced by
Alec Baldwin … producer
Kc Brandenstein … co-producer
Allen Cheney … executive producer
Matt DelPiano … producer
Tyler Gould … executive producer
Matthew Helderman … executive producer
Nathan Klingher … producer
Anjul Nigam … producer
Gabrielle Pickle … line producer
Emily Hunter Salveson … executive producer
Ryan Donnell Smith … producer
Luke Taylor … executive producer
Ryan Winterstern … producer
Are we actors in your hypothetical?
And from what I’ve read, he was practicing draws into the camera, and the gun discharged during the draw.
Until more information comes out, everything is just rumors.
I have never seen a blank round. How are they visibly different?
No projectile, usually crimped or sealed with wax. I wonder if Baldwin ever received training that instructed him to always make a final check before using a prop gun?
And what about this?
The Actors’ Equity Association’s guidelines state that, “Before each use, make sure the gun has been test-fired offstage, and then ask to test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside.” Further, “All loading of firearms must be done by the property master, armourer or experienced persons working under their direct supervision.”
“Nowadays, all weapons are checked before your blanks are put into the weapon.… The blanks themselves are never loaded until the very last minute, when all crew is in position, so the armourer knows exactly where every member of the crew is so that no one’s walking through any danger areas the armourer has set up,” said armoury co-ordinator Sam Dormer.
So to check it, he would have to remove the round?
Maybe going forward, live rounds on a set should have their ends painted red.
.44 pistol rounds.
Pistol blanks.
Real bullets
It takes a special kind of stupid to get the two confused.
They are the investors in the production and it is their responsibility to provide a safe work environment.
There is no reason to have live rounds on a set to begin with.
Like… none.
Prop master explains the training he always gives actors.
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The vendor-weapon specialist provides a gun-safety course, which the actors have to take. They teach you gun safety, how to handle a gun, and what could happen if you’re not paying attention to the safety of everyone on a set.
Prop masters are the last person to hand an actor a gun, and the person who gives the actor a gun is responsible for it. You have to go through the proper procedures to show the actor whether the gun is loaded and, if it’s not, whether it’s plugged, when a piece of plastic or wood clogs the magazine. There are a whole bunch of scenarios, and a lot of stuff could go wrong.
I make sure it’s loaded up with dummy bullets. They have a whole band inside, and you load them in front of the actor so they know what you’re giving them. I also do a lot of gun checks with my actors to show them an empty magazine and that there’s nothing in the barrel.
That didn’t appear to happen here, I wonder if Baldwin ever had such training? And if so, how he isn’t negligent for using the gun when it was not.
The AD will also hand off a gun.
It depends on the production.
He also says he instructs them not to point it directly at anyone. Period. Because even blanks can be dangerous.
Did he show Baldwin it wasn’t loaded? Because if he didn’t and Balwin ever had that training, guess what?
