Sheriff refuses Judges order

[moonshine]

if the judge orders their release
and teh sherriff refuses
and the person develops covid
could they sue teh sheriff personally for damages since his refusal to obey teh court order contributed to them catching and they havent been convited of a crime and are therefore presumed innocent

[WuWei]

@moonshine

if the judge orders their release
and teh sherriff refuses
and the person develops covid
could they sue teh sheriff personally for damages since his refusal to obey teh court order contributed to them catching and they havent been convited of a crime and are therefore presumed innocent

Sure.

And if he releases them and they commit a murder?

[Camp]

Everybody is a Constitutional scholar these days.

[Steel-W0LF]

@PeterGriffin

@WuWei

hey are following the Constitution, I disagree they are radic

They follow what they think it says when it’s convenient. They are radicals.

So like all liberals then. Glad you think you’re a radical.

[PeterGriffin]

@Steel-W0LF

So like all liberals then. Glad you think you’re a radical.

Nah. Mainstream .

[bigtwnvin]

Vaccination for a public health crisis and “forfeiture of natural rights”? Murders and especially pedophiles should be sequestered and vaccinated after the Gen pop but that’s just my opinion.

[Steel-W0LF]

@PeterGriffin

@Steel-W0LF

So like all liberals then. Glad you think you’re a radical.

Nah. Mainstream .

So it’s mainstream when liberals only follow the convenient parts of the constitution, but radical when the right does?

There’s a word for that.

[AZslim]

@altair1013

@Konssurvative1

This brings up a bigger question, I heard discussed here in Chicago today. Inmates getting vaccines before people who have higher risks…because of the uncontrolled spread inside prisons.

Not sure I like that idea. If convicted and incarcerated, don’t you forfeit some of your natural rights because of the crimes you committed?

I would be in favor of putting letting prisoners be vaccinated ahead of the general population if it keeps rapists, pedophiles, murders, MS-13 and others who liberals want released in prison.

You forgot to mention we want all terrorists released as well.

[PeterGriffin]

@Steel-W0LF

So it’s mainstream when liberals only follow the convenient parts of the constitution, but radical when the right does?

There’s a word for that

That’s not even an apt comparison. It is radical for law enforcement to follow what they think the Constitution says. By ignoring a lawful order he is…ya da! subverting the Constitution.

Just because the radical right fetishizes the Constitution doesn’t mean they know much about it.

[WuWei]

@PeterGriffin

By ignoring a lawful order

Assumption. Just because a judge ordered it doesn’t make it lawful.

[WuWei]

@PeterGriffin

Just because the radical right fetishizes the Constitution doesn’t mean they know much about it.

You think you know more about it than I do?

[moonshine]

@WuWei

@moonshine

if the judge orders their release
and teh sherriff refuses
and the person develops covid
could they sue teh sheriff personally for damages since his refusal to obey teh court order contributed to them catching and they havent been convited of a crime and are therefore presumed innocent

Sure.

And if he releases them and they commit a murder?

They are innocent until proven guilty.

[PeterGriffin]

@WuWei

You think you know more about it than I do?

I think that a lot of people who express their undying love for it have some pretty weird, sometimes radical, sometimes funny ideas on how it works.

Like this Sheriff.

[PeterGriffin]

@WuWei

Assumption. Just because a judge ordered it doesn’t make it lawful.

It is until it ain’t. And that’s not for the Sheriff to decide.

[Steel-W0LF]

@PeterGriffin

@WuWei

Assumption. Just because a judge ordered it doesn’t make it lawful.

It is until it ain’t. And that’s not for the Sheriff to decide.

So if a judge ordered a prisoner executed immediately after the trial…that’s lawful and should be carried out, until it isn’t.

[Steel-W0LF]

@PeterGriffin

@WuWei

Assumption. Just because a judge ordered it doesn’t make it lawful.

It is until it ain’t. And that’s not for the Sheriff to decide.

Also: this is an appeal to a “I was just following orders…” defense.

[PeterGriffin]

Hyperbole. Restrictions on movement, business etc have been held up as Constitutional across multiple SCOTUS cases going back to the early 1800’s.

A Sheriff’s opinion based on kissing the Constitution on the lips when he gets home isn’t valid.

[WuWei]

@moonshine

@WuWei

@moonshine

if the judge orders their release
and teh sherriff refuses
and the person develops covid
could they sue teh sheriff personally for damages since his refusal to obey teh court order contributed to them catching and they havent been convited of a crime and are therefore presumed innocent

Sure.

And if he releases them and they commit a murder?

They are innocent until proven guilty.

Of course they are, and a judge put them in there.

[WuWei]

@PeterGriffin

@WuWei

You think you know more about it than I do?

I think that a lot of people who express their undying love for it have some pretty weird, sometimes radical, sometimes funny ideas on how it works.

Like this Sheriff.

Based on?

[WuWei]

@PeterGriffin

@WuWei

Assumption. Just because a judge ordered it doesn’t make it lawful.

It is until it ain’t. And that’s not for the Sheriff to decide.

Did that judge put them all in there?