I wonder why the Russians would single out African Americans if they were trying to affect to election in favor of Donald Trump.
Call_me_Ishmael:Your OP singled out African Anericans. Why?
all of your posts are an attempt to derail the OP? Why?
You consider debate to be derailment.
Interesting.
Call_me_Ishmael:Your OP singled out African Anericans. Why?
Because according to the report, which I am quoting and trying to discuss, the Russian disinformation/interference/propaganda campaign targeted “left-leaning African American voters,” along with “conservatives,” “Latinos, Muslims, Christians, gay men and women, liberals, Southerners, [and] veterans.” All these groups are mentioned in the quotation I included.
For the–I dunno–sixth time, can you try to answer the question?
So why do people think the Russian plan sought to activate conservatives and support Donald Trump, while suppressing or undermining liberal and Democratic constituencies? Or is all this just a bunch of Deep State propaganda, aimed at attacking Russia and undermining President Trump?
There is no answer for a question based on a false premise.
Lol, I guess the Senate report is fake news.
vaard:Sure seems as if some people have a very vested interest in making sure that any discussion about russians interfering in our elect be supressed…
It’s almost like some people are trying to obscure the fact that Russia actively worked to support Trump and undermine Democrats in 2016…
It’s almost as if some of these “people” are actually a part of this Russian disinfo campaign…
That was a good article. I was surprised at the depth and scope of the interference, even though I should not have been.
If a conspiracy designed to interfere with an election is a cake, then this report is the flour, the sugar, and the pinch of salt.
Funny that “the article” was not the actual reports but a left leaning, Trump hating, publication.
reflechissez: Call_me_Ishmael:Your OP singled out African Anericans. Why?
all of your posts are an attempt to derail the OP? Why?
You consider debate to be derailment.
Interesting.
You consider what you’re doing to be debating. Interesting.
vaard:It is your claim that russians did not target African Americans?
My claim hardly needs restated ( and distorted) by you. I posted my views multiple times. Feel free to quote them in their entirety.
Your claim was distorted by you.
Kyshia:That was a good article. I was surprised at the depth and scope of the interference, even though I should not have been.
If a conspiracy designed to interfere with an election is a cake, then this report is the flour, the sugar, and the pinch of salt.
Funny that “the article” was not the actual reports but a left leaning, Trump hating, publication.
Why is that funny?
mobiusptc:Marvelous analogy
I can’t take credit for it, even though I just tried to take credit for it.
I did read something similar not long ago but dealt with cookie dough
Very fitting that we have people here that are… to paraphrase the article…
messaging that sought to confuse, distract and ultimately discourage members from dicussing the report…
In the words of our greatest president: “ what you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening”
Call_me_Ishmael: reflechissez: Call_me_Ishmael:Your OP singled out African Anericans. Why?
all of your posts are an attempt to derail the OP? Why?
You consider debate to be derailment.
Interesting.You consider what you’re doing to be debating. Interesting.
Sure. If you read THE ACTUAL REPORTS instead of a Washington Post article, you will see that both reports say that the Russian organization started its operations to influence Americans between 2012 and 2013. When did Trump announce his candidacy? 2015. Debate THAT.
So why do people think the Russian plan sought to activate conservatives and support Donald Trump, while suppressing or undermining liberal and Democratic constituencies? Or is all this just a bunch of Deep State propaganda, aimed at attacking Russia and undermining President Trump?
To answer the question: I think it strongly hints at collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to steal the election. That answer makes far more sense logically than any deep-state scenario with hundreds, if not thousands, of separate actors.
margaretms2:So why do people think the Russian plan sought to activate conservatives and support Donald Trump, while suppressing or undermining liberal and Democratic constituencies? Or is all this just a bunch of Deep State propaganda, aimed at attacking Russia and undermining President Trump?
To answer the question: I think it strongly hints at collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to steal the election. That answer makes far more sense logically than any deep-state scenario with hundreds, if not thousands, of separate actors.
Obama had 8 years to insert swamp critters… insiders who his people could control… Democrats and Republicans.
Call_me_Ishmael:Sure. If you read THE ACTUAL REPORTS instead of a Washington Post article, you will see that both reports say that the Russian organization started its operations to influence Americans between 2012 and 2013. When did Trump announce his candidacy? 2015. Debate THAT.
That’s an interesting diversion. Can you express why you think that it is relevant?
It is obvious to the objective reader here… my target audience. It seems like you don’t want the actual report discussed.
Hmmmmmmm
Very fitting that we have people here that are… to paraphrase the article…
messaging that sought to confuse, distract and ultimately discourage members from dicussing the report……
Obama had 8 years to insert swamp critters… insiders who his people could control… Democrats and Republicans.
That sounds like a decent first sentence to a very long book about an unbelievable conspiracy theory.
reflechissez: Call_me_Ishmael: reflechissez: Call_me_Ishmael:Your OP singled out African Anericans. Why?
all of your posts are an attempt to derail the OP? Why?
You consider debate to be derailment.
Interesting.You consider what you’re doing to be debating. Interesting.
Sure. If you read THE ACTUAL REPORTS instead of a Washington Post article, you will see that both reports say that the Russian organization started its operations to influence Americans between 2012 and 2013. When did Trump announce his candidacy? 2015. Debate THAT.
reflechissez: Call_me_Ishmael: reflechissez: Call_me_Ishmael:Your OP singled out African Anericans. Why?
all of your posts are an attempt to derail the OP? Why?
You consider debate to be derailment.
Interesting.You consider what you’re doing to be debating. Interesting.
Sure. If you read THE ACTUAL REPORTS instead of a Washington Post article, you will see that both reports say that the Russian organization started its operations to influence Americans between 2012 and 2013. When did Trump announce his candidacy? 2015. Debate THAT.
LOL. So you’ve read the ACTUAL REPORTS now? Do tell. If you actually read the Washington Post article, you’d see that it does discuss the origins of the Russian disinformation campaigns:
The report traces the origins of Russian online influence operations to Russian domestic politics in 2009 and says that ambitions shifted to include U.S. politics as early as 2013 on Twitter. Of the tweets the company provided to the Senate, 57 percent are in Russian, 36 percent in English and smaller amounts in other languages.
But this quotation is directly from the report, not the Post, and forms the basis for my question in the OP, which you’ve ignored:
“What is clear is that all of the messaging clearly sought to benefit the Republican Party — and specifically Donald Trump. Trump is mentioned most in campaigns targeting conservatives and right-wing voters, where the messaging encouraged these groups to support his campaign. The main groups that could challenge Trump were then provided messaging that sought to confuse, distract and ultimately discourage members from voting.”
Nothing you posted, or in the article, negates this claim from the report. So maybe we can discuss it, as I suggested in the OP, along with the reasons and rationale the Russians may have had for supporting the Trump candidacy and discouraging threats to it.
I’d rather spend my effort trying to make the US a better place. And that includes challenging this despicable racism that is being propagated here.
Perhaps your time and efforts would be better spent trying to actually comprehend the OP, or learning the basics of marketing.