Self-Defense or Manslaughter

altair1013 · 2020-05-08T20:09:05.931Z

Guvnah:

Looks like they might also arrest the guy who took the video of Arbery getting shot.

Yep. It looks like a lot of people jumped to conclusions. It appears the problem has been solved.

SixFoot · 2020-05-08T20:09:16.593Z

Guvnah:

Looks like they might also arrest the guy who took the video of Arbery getting shot.

GWH:

They should. He was part of the posse

I still haven’t bothered to watch anyone get murdered this week. Was the cameraman a witness or antagonist?

markdido · 2020-05-08T20:10:24.897Z

nwfdailynews.com

Latest on the killing of Ahmaud Arbery: Man who filmed video joined in 'hot...

Latest on the killing of Ahmaud Arbery: Man who filmed video joined in 'hot pursuit,' internal memo says

GWH · 2020-05-08T20:11:19.273Z

Yes…

SixFoot · 2020-05-08T20:18:16.632Z

Perhaps he was there to see a show. Hope he gets a better view from inside a cell.

SixFoot · 2020-05-08T20:27:21.213Z

WuWei:

SixFoot:

A couple of do-gooder jackasses looking for a concrete home to live in.

One of which was a cop who couldn’t take his badge off.

There’s always a pattern to these kinds of folks.

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moonshine · 2020-05-08T21:16:32.562Z

the county DA prevented police form arresting the two killers because she was friends with them according to two county commisioners.

she should be charged with obstruction of justice

ajc

Glynn County commissioners say DA blocked arrests after fatal shooting

Two Glynn County commissioners say District Attorney Jackie Johnson’s office refused to allow the Glynn County Police Department to make arrests immediately after the Feb. 23 shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery.

altair1013 · 2020-05-08T21:21:35.415Z

moonshine:

the county DA prevented police form arresting the two killers because she was friends with them according to two county commisioners.

she should be charged with obstruction of justice

If they have evidence, then yes. Burn baby burn.

Samm · 2020-05-08T21:29:44.969Z

WildRose:

The difference is that he had ample opportunity to see this situation developing as he approached.

Someone hiding in ambush doesn’t afford you that opportunity.

Two armed men in a truck … one unarmed man on foot. Hmmm. I wonder which will prevail.

Scratch · 2020-05-08T21:34:21.803Z

WildRose:

The difference is that he had ample opportunity to see this situation developing as he approached

Thats like saying its the victims fault he got robbed by being in a bad neighborhood, not the guys who robbed him. The victim should have known better.

Samm · 2020-05-08T21:35:04.884Z

WildRose:

No chance at all of a first degree murder conviction here.

Manslaughter at best.

No evidence of a hate crime at all period and there was no lynching.

Other than that you’re batting .300.

Second degree murder is an unlawful killing without premeditated planning or reflection. That could easily apply here. Manslaughter might sell as a plea agreement.

moonshine · 2020-05-08T21:37:52.769Z

i wonder. felony murder is considered 1st degree and thats what they were charged with

Samm · 2020-05-08T21:45:31.815Z

Guvnah:

Samm:

What are the odds the older guy takes a plea deal to save his son?

I doubt if that would fly. The son was driving, the son hopped out with the gun and blocked the path, and the son is who fired the gun. It would be pretty darned hard to convince the court the the Dad was responsible.

He’s referring to another thread discussing why Michael Flynn copped a plea deal to keep his son from getting wrapped up in the same collusion meat grinder Flynn was stuck in. He didn’t like the discussion there, so he’s snarking over here about it.

Okay, but surely he should know that this situation is entirely different. That was coercion to obtain a confession. In this scenario, there is no question as to who did what. If guilt is determined it will be perfectly clear where the responsibility lies.

altair1013 · 2020-05-08T21:45:55.011Z

moonshine:

i wonder. felony murder is considered 1st degree and thats what they were charged with

It’s probably valid. They chased down somebody who had done nothing wrong and shot him. Put em in the hole.

Samm · 2020-05-08T21:47:34.460Z

Guvnah:

WildRose:

Let the investigation run it’s course so we have all the facts.

This. This should be the reason this thread should end.

How does this thread differ from any other thread? What good is a discussion board if we don’t talk about things where all the facts are not known?

Samm · 2020-05-08T21:49:23.198Z

WuWei:

WildRose:

If they tried to stop him and ask him about it or detain him until police arrived and he took off he would in fact be attempting to escape.

Let the investigation run it’s course so we have all the facts.

Escape what?

An uncertain fate at the hands of a couple of strangers with guns.

Samm · 2020-05-08T21:57:57.292Z

Guvnah:

CanadianJudo:

Your the one suggesting there was break in

The article that discusses the police report (linked near the top of this thread) doesn’t just suggest it. It states the police report says so.

Yes, but it was not immediately prior to this incident. There was no suspect fleeing the scene to chase.

SixFoot · 2020-05-08T22:01:51.827Z

Scratch:

Thats like saying its the victims fault he got robbed by being in a bad neighborhood, not the guys who robbed him. The victim should have known better.

I’ve had a cop say something incredibly similar to this to me once. lol

Samm · 2020-05-08T22:03:57.391Z

5th_WiL:

Scratch:

Lets see…A white guy in Georgia sees a black guy running. He gets another guy, they grab their guns and hop in a pickup truck to go chasing after said black guy, with one guy standing up in back of the truck with his gun out…Doesn’t get much more redneck than that…The only thing missing is the the Dixie horn on the truck.

^^^This
They checked off every stereotypical box. Down to being stupid enough to record it.

I don’t see where either of them said “hold my beer” before heading off in pursuit.

Guvnah · 2020-05-08T22:11:07.242Z

5th_WiL:

They checked off every stereotypical box. Down to being stupid enough to record it.

If this is as it appears, the guy in the trailing car would be an abject idiot for tying his own proverbial noose to hang himself, and his own buddies, by releasing the video.