Are you saying all (I’m assuming just) public colleges have carry a certain number of sports even if their revenue can’t justify it?
How else do you get equal numbers of male and female athletes?
You can’t do it with just football and men’s/women’s basketball.
In the words of BK:
“Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. And under ordinary principles of antitrust law, it is not evident why college sports should be any different. The NCAA is not above the law,” Kavanaugh wrote.“
How much money are these sports programs making off of the labor produced by the athletes? I’m 100% behind letting theses athletes negotiate how they should be compensated. If they want it to be a free education, fine. If they feel they have leverage to negotiate for more than that, fine. If they want to negotiate just monetary compensation, fine. Maybe four year colleges don’t have a career path they are interested in and would rather work in a trade. Let them be able to use that money for a trade school instead.
Some of the degrees they get aren’t worth the paper they are printed on:
It’s silly to even ask the question. They WANT to pay them. They CHEAT to pay them.
The only obstacle is NCAA regulation.
The war of escalating perks has marched on for years with schools investing millions in facilities meant to pamper and impress.
This is not athletes begging government to mandate compensation. This is athletes pointing out the obvious fact that they are a highly valued resource that is banned from compensation or free market forces due to collusion by the “industry” and social engineering of society.
Compensation could ruin the sport. BUT the only course is to convince the athletes of this and strike a balance. A creative hybrid deal could salvage the product.
That is kind of where I am with it.
all good, but now there’s gonna be a lot more court cases. will college athletes unionize? will there be one union or will different sports have separate unions? will individuals in right to work states be able to negotiate contracts for themselves? how will labor laws in the states effect this? out of state games? state schools vs private colleges?
Alan Page was a member of the Minnesota Vikings Purple People Eaters in th e 50’s & 70\s. While he was in the NFL he got his J.D… He went on to be the first black Associate Justice on the Minnesota Supreme Court. He spent his free time and retirement going to high schools and colleges to tell students to stay in school and get their degree because there was no guarantee that they would become a pro and how long their sports career would last. He was asked once if he though he had made a impact. And he said that he had received hundreds of letters from athletes thanking him for his wise words.
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I bet they go with player’s unions, like the pros
so, a different union for each sport, a unions job is not to educate its members, its to get them the most money it can. so I imagine football and basketball players will be well compensated. will athletes in sports that actually cost money have to pay for the privelege of playing?
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Correct that is what I said accept used the word teams instead of athletes (athletes is more correct). Your first post was in response about revenue which was incorrect.
Yeah, until the Feds waive Title Ix around…then it’s good bye to college athletics.
You have to have equal numbers of male and female athletic scholarships…and having the only 3 sports that generate any revenue the only sports on campus isn’t going to make the feds happy.
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Actually Floyd fisher said it better. They have to have equal equal number of athletes. Even if that meant cutting a team that made money to add a team that did not.
IIRC, there are only 3 sports that generate revenue.
Football, and Men’s/Women’s Basketball.
If those are the only 3 sports on campus, you’re in deep trouble with the Feds. Plain, pure, and simple.
That’s why I said what I did.
one of the problems with title ix, fairness feels good, but reality intrudes.
who’s going to pay for the sports that cost money? once you’re paying money to the students who’s sports make money, where will the money come from to pay for the others? rising tuitions?
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I think we are saying the same thing. They have to have the same amount of athletes. Revenue is not a factor at all. Most schools don’t have any sport making a profit.
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That was one of the original arguments used against Title IX.
I am really curious to see how this is going to play out.
I don’t claim to have any idea how the money train works, but don’t the schools that generate big money with sports funnel that into more than just sports?
and what about child labor laws? don’t hs football players deserve to be paid for their labor? now that football is a job instead of a sport and student athletes are paid employees, how are hs football players any different except that its child slave labor?
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I Have never heard any HS that makes money off an athletes name like colleges do That is where this all started. Schools making millions on things like Jerseys with players names.
Just for clarification I am against this. They need to change other rules. Let player’s get endorsement contracts, let them keep winnings and pay from a different sport if they are able. Just to name a few.
