SCOTUS Bias Question

WuWei · 2023-07-09T12:52:20.579Z

Ben_Natuf:

originalists and textualists are very close in philosophy. Its the left end that’s more interested in outcomes than inputs.

Is it? Read Roberts.

Munimula1 · 2023-07-09T14:03:47.729Z

In today’s NY Times, there is a big article about Clarence Thomas. "As he argued from the bench in his concurrence to the recent decision striking down affirmative action, the court should be “focusing on individuals as individuals,” rather than on the view that Americans are “all inexorably trapped in a fundamentally racist society.”

Where is any of that in the Constitution? We have been duped.

Ben_Natuf · 2023-07-09T14:22:36.313Z

Roberts is a politician in a dress.

Tguns · 2023-07-09T14:59:02.057Z

Which part are you looking for in the constitution?

The part about individuals…or the part that claims "Americans are all inexorably trapped in a fundamentally racist society.”?

WuWei · 2023-07-09T17:47:19.563Z

Munimula1:

In today’s NY Times, there is a big article about Clarence Thomas. "As he argued from the bench in his concurrence to the recent decision striking down affirmative action, the court should be “focusing on individuals as individuals,” rather than on the view that Americans are “all inexorably trapped in a fundamentally racist society.”

Where is any of that in the Constitution? We have been duped.

In the Bill of Rights.

WuWei · 2023-07-09T17:47:56.350Z

Ben_Natuf:

Roberts is a politician in a dress.

Are not they all? Kind of the point of the thread.

zantax · 2023-07-09T18:08:12.780Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

We could turn the whole mess over to ChatGPT

Sure, as long as conservatives get to do the RHLF.

Munimula1 · 2023-07-09T18:21:11.500Z

WuWei:

Munimula1:

In today’s NY Times, there is a big article about Clarence Thomas. "As he argued from the bench in his concurrence to the recent decision striking down affirmative action, the court should be “focusing on individuals as individuals,” rather than on the view that Americans are “all inexorably trapped in a fundamentally racist society.”

Where is any of that in the Constitution? We have been duped.

In the Bill of Rights.

No, I don’t think so.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2023-07-09T19:19:35.601Z

zantax:

Supreme_War_Pig:

We could turn the whole mess over to ChatGPT

Sure, as long as conservatives get to do the RHLF.

And that takes us right back to the bias problem.

It’s almost like imperfect humans design imperfect systems and institutions.

Zander · 2023-07-09T19:59:25.614Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

zantax:

Supreme_War_Pig:

We could turn the whole mess over to ChatGPT

Sure, as long as conservatives get to do the RHLF.

And that takes us right back to the bias problem.

It’s almost like imperfect humans design imperfect systems and institutions.

If only we had politicians and judges who, down the line, had identical opinions about the constitution and laws. And a dictatorship of the people to safeguard that. It would be utopia.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2023-07-09T20:24:50.087Z

Stop that!

WuWei · 2023-07-09T20:33:34.114Z

Munimula1:

WuWei:

Munimula1:

In today’s NY Times, there is a big article about Clarence Thomas. "As he argued from the bench in his concurrence to the recent decision striking down affirmative action, the court should be “focusing on individuals as individuals,” rather than on the view that Americans are “all inexorably trapped in a fundamentally racist society.”

Where is any of that in the Constitution? We have been duped.

In the Bill of Rights.

No, I don’t think so.

Then you don’t understand the Bill of Rights or what a republic is.

Munimula1 · 2023-07-09T21:42:45.016Z

WuWei:

Munimula1:

WuWei:

Munimula1:

In today’s NY Times, there is a big article about Clarence Thomas. "As he argued from the bench in his concurrence to the recent decision striking down affirmative action, the court should be “focusing on individuals as individuals,” rather than on the view that Americans are “all inexorably trapped in a fundamentally racist society.”

Where is any of that in the Constitution? We have been duped.

In the Bill of Rights.

No, I don’t think so.

Then you don’t understand the Bill of Rights or what a republic is.

Oh, but I do. Both.

WuWei · 2023-07-09T22:42:45.091Z

Munimula1:

Oh, but I do. Both.

Obviously not, but I’d love to hear it. If you really do, you can do it with one word

Supreme_War_Pig · 2023-07-09T22:48:41.948Z

its-a-trap-trap (1)

WuWei · 2023-07-09T22:50:13.179Z

Won’t engage, just titter behind your hand. How convenient.

Ben_Natuf · 2023-07-09T23:41:39.726Z

Roberts is the worst off all of them. At least the others do have some core of belief or philosophy, Roberts is all politician. A reed.

Tguns · 2023-07-10T00:03:50.859Z

Im stil curious as to where Clarence Thomas’ statement is inconsistent with the constitution.

Please advise.

WuWei · 2023-07-10T00:29:43.442Z

Roberts has a core belief.

Cratic3947 · 2023-07-11T18:58:01.547Z

Some people are logic based some are emotion based. Some are just dishonest. People are different. The biggest check on govt that the founders wanted was it’s small size and limited scope. Because people are not angels. If people were angels you would not need govt.