Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts

[EternalVigilance]

@Bill.in.PA

The experts decided early on that the only solution to COVID is to vaccinate everyone. The reality is that the vaccines only provide temporary immunity at best and come with significant side effects. The sudden push for force vaccinations and censorship shows confirms that they experts realize that the evidence is piling up against their orthodoxy.

They are not “significant” side effects and their occurrences are nowhere NEAR as prevalent as you believe, despite what your personalized algorithms might tell you on a daily basis.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@tzu

Plainly, bluntly, frankly: yes, conservatives are the problem. Solipsistic, conspiracy-prone, grievance-addicted ingrates who torch society whenever they cannot rule it like fantasy overlords, who adore cheaters while screeching platitudes from fairy tales, and who dwell in an epistemic wasteland of victimhood and mortal adversaries who must be destroyed.

@Supreme_War_Pig

Yeah. I don’t know that I have seen such an explicit and blanket repudiation before though.

I mean science = sheep. That’s quite a bold statement right there,

Look up. You cheered it.

I cheered what?

The other blanket repudiation.

[PurpnGold]

@Guvnah

In the current arena of debate, “science” gets limited to the set of studies that supports one’s agenda.

Scientific studies are a part of science. When I post a peer reviewed study… I am using a study that my provide evidence to back up my claim… however if someone wishes to challenge that study, I would expect a different study.

Studies are a good tool for discuss but that doesn’t mean they are infallible. In fact, any good academic study should have a section at the end that describes what they could have done better… provided the information was reliable or available at the time of the study.

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

Where have I heard that before?

This is part where you tell us where you’ve heard this before.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

When I post a peer reviewed study…

PM me a link please.

[WuWei]

Testing, masks, distancing, travel, lock down, beaches, going outside, schools…

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@tnt

@Guvnah

He has no problem if YOU CHOOSE to do so.

The pushback is against government taking away that choice from everyone.

I have every confidence that you actually know the difference.

This is all well and good re: things that only affect the individual, but the issue here is, someone’s mask decisions affect the people around him/her as well.

It’s like smoking - of course it’s an individuals decision to smoke or not smoke and they will bear the consequences of either decision. But smoking in public affects those around you possibly in a negative way, so therefore, it is not up tot he individual as to wether they can light up in a bar or movie theatre.

You know, the wholesale conservative rejection of the public good isn’t even the most galling thing about all of this.

The most galling thing is the conservative insistence that we accept, and even protect their reticence.

It’s a perverse realignment of the whole concept

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

Testing, masks, distancing, travel, lock down, beaches, going outside, schools…

Do you agree that guidance can change during a pandemic as the pandemic itself changes?

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Testing, masks, distancing, travel, lock down, beaches, going outside, schools…

Do you agree that guidance can change during a pandemic as the pandemic itself changes?

The “pandemic” hasn’t changed.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@tzu

Plainly, bluntly, frankly: yes, conservatives are the problem. Solipsistic, conspiracy-prone, grievance-addicted ingrates who torch society whenever they cannot rule it like fantasy overlords, who adore cheaters while screeching platitudes from fairy tales, and who dwell in an epistemic wasteland of victimhood and mortal adversaries who must be destroyed.

@Supreme_War_Pig

Yeah. I don’t know that I have seen such an explicit and blanket repudiation before though.

I mean science = sheep. That’s quite a bold statement right there,

Look up. You cheered it.

I cheered what?

The other blanket repudiation.

Are you referring to the burdendome ingrates thing? If so, science = sheep is on an elevated magnitude.

[tnt]

@Supreme_War_Pig

You know, the wholesale conservative rejection of the public good isn’t even the most galling thing about all of this.

The most galling thing is the conservative insistence that we accept, and even protect their reticence.

It’s a perverse realignment of the whole concept

Yeah, the need for “I don’t care if what I do is bad for everyone else - you must accept it as a just another choice!” is so insane.

It’s entitled really. Like ‘I have a right to hurt others because I am special!’

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

The “pandemic” hasn’t changed.

Transmission rates, number of cases, number of deaths, number of variants, number of people vaccinated, etc, are examples of how the pandemic can change.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Are you referring to the burdendome ingrates thing? If so, science = sheep is on an elevated magnitude.

I understand.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

The “pandemic” hasn’t changed.

Transmission rates, number of cases, number of deaths, number of variants, number of people vaccinated, etc, are examples of how the pandemic can change.

No they aren’t. Those are data about the “pandemic”.

[tnt]

@WuWei

The “pandemic” hasn’t changed.

Of course it has! The Alpha variant was less contagious, smaller viral load and less resistant to the vaccines.

Delta has changed the nature of the threat.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

The “pandemic” hasn’t changed.

Of course it has! The Alpha variant was less contagious, smaller viral load and less resistant to the vaccines.

Delta has changed the nature of the threat.

Internet Man smiles.

[tnt]

@WuWei

No they aren’t. Those are data.

Now it’s time for the ‘short answers that are basically semantics and really not a significant argument’ part f of the thread.

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

The “pandemic” hasn’t changed.

Transmission rates, number of cases, number of deaths, number of variants, number of people vaccinated, etc, are examples of how the pandemic can change.

No they aren’t. Those are data about the “pandemic”.

Which in turn provides a way to measure if the pandemic has changed over time.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Internet Man smiles.

Man Woman TV Camera Person.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

The “pandemic” hasn’t changed.

Transmission rates, number of cases, number of deaths, number of variants, number of people vaccinated, etc, are examples of how the pandemic can change.

No they aren’t. Those are data about the “pandemic”.

Which in turn provides a way to measure if the pandemic has changed over time.

Sure, if you say so.