Well, it turns out that they can’t due to some out of context quote from Candidate Biden
WuWei
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Why don’t you try worrying about yourself?
But that’s the thing with public health. Your decisions can have an affect on me
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That one I do know the answer to. 
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WuWei
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Do they? Too bad. Worry about yourself. Do your part. You can’t control me.
Give yourself some peace.
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No I can’t. It doesn’t change the fact that in the arena of public health, our actions, or lack thereof, can affect others.
This is a prime example of the malignant individualism I referenced yesterday.
WuWei
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Yes, actually it does “change the fact”. Too bad. Worry about yourself.
You are espousing a prime example of malignant collectivism.
Do your part. We are not a team.
I have done my part. I would like it if others would do theirs.
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I hate to be the one to tell you this, but most people don’t care what you’d like, especially when it comes to their health.
I certainly don’t.
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Yes, that is perfectly clear. And I do understand where you are coming from.
Just don’t be surprised if and/or when the rest of society takes measures to protect themselves from your malignant invidualism.
It is already starting, as per the “Corporations require vaccination” thread. If this Delta variant really takes off, you will see more of this kind of thing.
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I understand. You do what you gotta do to protect your malignant collective. Of course it won’t actually be you doing it.
I like this new open authoritarianism.
All we can do it hope. Maybe enough deplorables will get sick so WE can really put them in their place!
No crying when it stings back.
tnt
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This is just gaslighting for convenience…suddenly we can’t identify reality because we don’t want to do x, y or z…we’d rather pretend the whole world is the Matrix than put a mask on…or whatever it is we don’t want to do.

WuWei:
I understand. You do what you gotta do to protect your malignant collective. Of course it won’t actually be you doing it.
I like this new open authoritarianism.
All we can do it hope. Maybe enough deplorables will get sick so WE can really put them in their place!
No crying when it stings back.
To be clear, I am not advocating for heavy handed intervention, I just think it might go that way.
tnt
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WuWei:
On your ranch, you decide.
On my ranch, I decide. I also decide what a woman is. And a lady.
How can anyone really ‘own’ anything? On what basis? Who decides? What reality allows for this?
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You should watch the movie.
I didn’t say reality can’t be identified, I asked you who identifies it.
This is a very important concept in the Critical Theory you love so much.
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WuWei:
You should watch the movie.
I didn’t say reality can’t be identified, I asked you who identifies it.
This is a very important concept in the Critical Theory you love so much.
No, it’s just gaslighting and diversion and avoidance.
KISS.
Some things are true. Others are not.
WuWei
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No, it’s really not. If you’re going to support CT, you really should learn something about it.
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Supreme_War_Pig:
Sophistry
No it’s not, but who decides?