Noted. I haven’t read it. I’ve the Communist Manifesto and some of Das Kapital. I’ll read it when I have some extra time.
What do you think Marx’s ultimate goal was?
tzu
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You are arguing with skousenism. You might as well tickle a pig in the hopes of producing diamonds
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tzu
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The full development of the individual, and the social abolition of alienation. He declares it umpteen times.
That sounds like an impossible goal. He had to have known that.
tzu
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What is ‘impossible’ about liberation?
(Sincerely asked.)
Added in edit: the 18th is free on Google Books
WuWei
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And you have claimed, thousands of times, that when white people do it, it’s “institutional”.
Your history didn’t begin last night.
It’s hypocritical.
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The abolition of social alienation sounds like an impossible goal.
People will always be alienated in one way or another. It’s what humans do. And what we feel.
I’m assuming Marx was speaking from a material aspect and not an emotional aspect.
tzu
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Everything Marx wrote on alienation/estrangement
e7alr
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Liberation achieved at the end of a sword, only for those who submit. The collective more important than the individual. Not really liberation. But that is always the problem with utopia complexes and their self righteous advocates. They always want to ignore the part about the end justifying the extreme violence advocated to achieve it.
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WuWei
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Man! Look at those Crit names! Lukacs, Derrida. It’s a who’s who.
And Marcuse ran with it!
tzu
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You seem to think I share your epistemology of self.
tzu
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German Marxists write about Marx’s central idea? The shock? The surprise?
e7alr
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I don’t really care. A duck is a duck.
WuWei
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Yeah, some of them. Of course Lukac and Derrida weren’t German.
Alienation was not the central idea
