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Raise a kid worth accepting.
You want to “keep it real”? Leave them in public schools.
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More upper middle-rich will have more choice. The midde-poor will not.
Talk about selfish… rich politicians developed a college university scheme for K-12 that almost exclusively benefits family’s with money.
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They can already pay twice. The middle class cannot
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Your kids go to a good public school. Pull the ladder up.
Won’t matter. The good schools are at capacity because kids who are already there aren’t leaving. So in order to accommodate more kids they raise the prices which in turn prices out most of the prospective voucher kids.
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Or other people will open more good schools.
Don’t worry about it, you have good public schools. Leave them there. This isn’t for or about you. Your kids can probably read.
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The middle class aren’t paying twice. Not a single middle class family is paying 7k in property taxes that is allocated for public schools… At best they are avg less than $500.
Family of 4, that owns a modest home, pays $500 a year in school taxes. That’s about $250 per kid.
Voucher is 7k per kid… so that is 14k.
That family is getting $13,500 more money back in voucher than they put in.
They are not paying twice.
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They are if they send their kids to any school except the failed public school.
Yes because I live in an area with higher than avg income. I want good kids who don’t have that luxury to get the same opportunity. Every voucher program I’ve seen doesn’t do that.
It would give my neighbor, who sends his kids to a 30k a year private school… a discount on something he could already afford easily.
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How?
You don’t know that.
You’re afraid it will degrade your good public school. It’s obvious. Pull that ladder up!
They aren’t. They on avg put in $500. A voucher program would get them 20-30x that amount back. It goes up depending on the number of kids they have.
Put another way…
If I’m currently sending my kids to a private school at 15k a year… the $500 I put in for taxes is negligible. I am likely not complaining about “paying twice”. I had a choice of sending my two kids to a public school for $500 a year or sending them to a private school for 30k a year.
Choices
Can you Find a voucher program that meets the goals of voucher advocates. Should be easy since there are a number that have been around for years.
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Not for you to say. Your selfishness is boring me. Go ahead and pull the ladder up. School choice is coming-because your way failed.
Time to try something new.
School choice is a tough subject. On the one hand, the parent should want what is best for their kid and if the school in their district is lacking, they should be able to get their kid the education they deserve.
OTOH, I have paid taxes in my district for over 30 years and don’t have kids, never will have kids. And my property values are partially based on the quality of the public schools in my district. Take away money from it and it will inevitably decline. Thus lowering my property values.
I don’t believe in vouchers. In example, if every student costs an average 8000 dollars for a district, I don’t think the parents of a child or children should get that value to shop with. If a parent of 3 kids wants to go private or charter, they shouldn’t get 24k a year in example.
But…,.if they pay 3k a year in property taxes, once you take out the money used for Fire, Police, public works etc. the remainder that actually goes to public schools could be reserved for the parent to use in private or charter schools. For all of their kids. If 1.5k out of the 3k they pay is for the school system, as long as they remove every child from public school they can save 1.5k a year and spend it as they wish. No problems there.
They just aren’t getting more money than they put in, that is ridiculous.
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On the other hand, kids can’t read.
What ladder am I pulling up? My kids go to public school… and if a voucher came my way… presumably I’d have access to it too.
I’d be cool with an income cap… but I would guess most voucher advocates would not be cool with that.
Overall I think that is going to be rare. Every damn kid has a cell phone and they are all glued to them. All they do is read, it’s just garbage they are reading.
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The Big Ladder of Choice.
