Saul Alinksy Now a Right Wing Hero

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Both are true whether you understand it or not.

The clintons are the vipers and their venom has run through the country eating away at the dignity of the presidency and the moral standards of the nation.

We’ve been on a rapid decline ever since. Without the nation being numbed to their moral bankruptcy Trump could never have been elected.

This,

8 years of Bill and 4 years of Hillary Clinton made even the most venomous personalities acceptable in American Politics.

Societal decay happens rapidly.

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The Dems did this!

So much for arguing that people should take personal responsibility.

Trump voters chose him over something like 17 other candidates. They like him, it’s not complicated.

In the real world the POTUS is the leader of the nation and sets an example for the youth of the nation to follow.

We’ve now raised two generations of “youth” in the Clinton and Post Clinton era and of course the party has kept him up as an Icon and leader of the party and spent most of the last eight years promoting his wife to be the next POTUS.

Trump won the nomination by taking advantage of the early states with open primaries drawing democrats and independents in to put him over the top and gained a lot of support from the anti establishment crowd as well.

Fortunately his time will pass and maybe we can hopefully do much better in the future than to have both parties nominate the two most detestable people running.

And Red State America so subverted that they wemt out and found their own degenate to enthusiastically embrace.

Clintons > conservative convictions

Republican and conservative are not synonyms.

A whole lot of people in both parties were willing to sell out their supposed “ideals” to vote against the other candidate in 2016 but that could never have happened without the lowering of the moral bar in the 90’s.

Neither Trump nor Hillary could have won their nominations without it.

In the real world, it was overwhelmingly older voters that supported and elected Trump.

What’s their excuse?

Trump won the primaries for lots of reasons. Getting the early support of evangelicals was one of the big ones though, he managed a plurality throughout and they remain his strongest supporters today.

Most of Trump’s base is 25-50 exactly the demographics that grew up or came of age during the Clinton years.

Clinton won the 18-24, 25-29, 30-39 and 30-44 demographics. It’s once you get above 44 that Trump started winning out.

I don’t think you can blame him on young(er) voters. He did however get 80% odd of the self ID’d evangelical voters.

Look at this, this swing didn’t happen in the 90’s. And ■■■■■■■ hell is that one big swing.

Your graph is based on religious affiliations and forgiveness, not votes.

Yes. Look at evangelicals, look at the dates.

Swing didn’t happen in the 90’s. Trump made it acceptable.

It’s one of the most remarkable things about the '16 election, imo.

Steam roller time.

You don’t seem to understand the meaning of “forgiveness” at least in the evangelical context.

And you don’t seem to be able to read the dates. Or did the entire evangelical context of forgiveness change between '11 and '16?

You argued that the Clintons caused voters to become more accepting of unethical behaviour and venomous personalities in their politics, and thus the Trump support.

But that swing between '11 and '16 shows the total opposite, imo. I’d put money on that swing starting the moment Trump arrived on the scene.

It will swing back once he’s gone too. Probably not all the way though.

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Why does this remind me of the liquid metal terminator melting in the vat of steel?

Landmines!!

Hardy Har Har!

Hold my Beer

You’ve said this many times. You have never offered anything to back it up.