Saudi arabia admits they killed journalist

[mbus]

This discussion always ends with ‘how many?’. What is the exact number of citizens a country can kill before our national interests are not served? Anybody?

[WildRose]

When you can show a connection from Trump to the murder by all means do so.

You will be the hero of the Democratic party for at least a century.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@WildRose

We have strength because we have solid strategic partnerships we’re not willing to put in jeopardy over something that is plainly and flatly none of our damned business.

When you start burning bridges with Allies you very quickly find yourself alone with no one and nowhere to turn to when you need help.

Sounds like weakness to me. Hey I guess you’re cool with allies murdering journalists. No surprise though after all…most trumpists are Putin lovers

[Vigilante]

Connection= Arms sales to Terrorists

[WildRose]

You wouldn’t do squat. It’s quite easy to play the anonymous internet moral crusader when we all know you aren’t actually willing to put anything at risk yourself for your crusade.

The people we have at risk in the ME today along with the thousands of others who are the nationals of our closest allies are very real.

There lives are 100% dependent on our good relations with the Saudis. That’s not something imagined, or made up, it’s reality.

Give us a very specific number of how man of those people you are willing to let die over the death of this Saudi Citizen on foreign soil at the hands of his own gov’t?

Better yet, why don’t you pack up and move there yourself and put yourself at risk for your moral crusade instead of volunteering to put their lives at risk over your histrionic overreaction?

Put something of your own on the line if you’re going to claim the superior moral ground over those who actually do every day.

[tnt]

@WildRose

The dumbest things done by both were ruining relationships we had with allies. The Arab Spring, the fall of Libya, and everything associated and which followed are a direct result of their piss poor decision making.

That includes empowering Iran to take control of most of the region from Lebanon to Syria at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives and creating the greatest refugee crisis since WWII.

Brilliant example on your part, utterly brilliant!!!

On the other hand when Obama took office Iran was Isolated, starving, and collapsing from within under the sanctions put in place by the previous administration.

Again, my hat is off to you for such a utterly brilliant example. Awe inspiring indeed.

So you are sad that Libya overthrew a murderous thug…sounds about right. You know Qudaffi killed americans, right?

[tnt]

@WildRose

Nobody is supporting his murder. Quit making things up.

Of course you are.

[WildRose]

-I know Q’daffi was an official US ally and had been for a decade after giving up his nukes, and had been aiding us greatly in the WOT since 9-11.

I also know he is the only US ally the US has ever then turned around and deposed.

I know the direct result was the death of US citizens including an ambassador at the hands of the very people we helped to overthrow the country.

I know that since then the country has become one of the biggest haven’s for AQ on the planet and we keep losing Americans because of it.

Again, thank you for the utterly brilliant example.

[mbus]

@WildRose

The dumbest things done by both were ruining relationships we had with allies. The Arab Spring, the fall of Libya, and everything associated and which followed are a direct result of their piss poor decision making.

Relationships with allies can be ruined by supporting a leadership unpopular with its people. International relations is vastly complicated.

[Blackwolf]

Donald’s retribution will be swift, severe, and just. How could it not be? They tried to play Donald for the fool by firmly denying it, and he believed them because Donald believes in the goodness of all men. But to betray him like this by reversing course and now admitting they murdered the man?

I’d hate to be Saudi Arabia right now. The wrath of Donald is truly something terrible to behold.

[WildRose]

That is a complete and utter fabrication in every way possible.

Remaining neutral on something that is clearly none of our business is not in any way endorsing the act, it’s simply minding our own business and staying out of what is clearly a Saudi issue and to some degree a Turkish issue.

Between the two which is the better ally to the US? Who has been the most reliable ally between the two for the last twenty years?

Which of them turned their backs on us when we needed them most?

Which of them is currently engaged in killing our allies the Kurds?

Which of them is aligned more and more with the Iranians?

Which of them is aligned against our staunchest and longest ally in the region Israel?

Which of them is directly supporting the terrorists in Israel?

It’s a long list I know but the answers are very simple.

[WildRose]

And were discussing chess with people that can’t even play checkers.

[mbus]

@WildRose

And were discussing chess with people that can’t even play checkers.

Who? The Saudis? Me, Rose?

[Vigilante]

@tnt

@WildRose

Nobody is supporting his murder. Quit making things up.

Of course you are.

Absolutely are. And selling weaponry to Terrorists.

[BlueTex]

@WildRose

Because it’s none of our business to start with and for all of the reasons already outlined. His death is not worth jeoopardizing the strategic balance in the region much less putting even a single American or Allied’s life at risk.

Why aren’t you folks crying for us to do the same with China? They are the worst abuser of human rights on the planet and a very serious threat to the US both economically and militarily and is not in any way an ally to the US.

Where’s your consistency?

Well then you are going to hate the fact that the Senate Foreign Relations committee already invoked the 120 day investigation period.

https://www.corker.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2018/10/corker-menendez-graham-leahy-letter-triggers-global-magnitsky-investigation-into-disappearance-of-jamal-khashoggi

Look at all those republican signatures…

[mbus]

@BlueTex

@WildRose

Because it’s none of our business to start with and for all of the reasons already outlined. His death is not worth jeoopardizing the strategic balance in the region much less putting even a single American or Allied’s life at risk.

Why aren’t you folks crying for us to do the same with China? They are the worst abuser of human rights on the planet and a very serious threat to the US both economically and militarily and is not in any way an ally to the US.

Where’s your consistency?

Well then you are going to hate the fact that the Senate Foreign Relations committee already invoked the 120 day investigation period.

https://www.corker.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2018/10/corker-menendez-graham-leahy-letter-triggers-global-magnitsky-investigation-into-disappearance-of-jamal-khashoggi

Look at all those republican signatures…

Invite to Bi-Partisan Wrist Slapping Party enclosed.

[WildRose]

Wow, they launched an investigation!

Hilarious.

[hwyflier]

@WildRose

I guess all of us using What’sapp must secretly be Russian Terrorists.

@ohknow35

Yes, trump and his evil family members are plotting to kill journalists on WhatsApp, man.

Look at you two, suddenly not caring about deleted government emails and messages.

[Plasmaball]

Rose is a neocon when it comes to the military. Undying support of it no matter what. So you have to start with that understanding that nothing you say is going to sway him from thinking that the military can do no wrong…nor does it need budget cuts etc…

[Plasmaball]

So has the kind of Sa…its gotten so bad for mbs that the king had to step in. Mbs was basically hiding this from him till he couldnt…