Sandy Hook families reach $73 million settlement with riflemaker Remington

[kingarthur65]

@Samm

What State law did they break?

Connecticut Unfair Trade Practices Act

The same law that was used in the same state to sue Purdue.

Theoretically, the same AG could file the same complaint on behalf of the citizens of Connecticut and many other states have similar laws on their books. Other states and localities used similar state laws to file complaints against Purdue.

[Oryx]

@Samm

How is that a screw up? They have no money, why rack up more unpaid legal fees?

We’re all speculating here since we don’t know yet what they found in discovery. But Remington is not responsible for the Sandy Hook massacre and they should have fought it in court. Yes, they would have racked up legal bills, but not $73 million worth.

[Guntsu]

I guess they are just pea shooters…

Must be why Lanza skipped the hand guns, shotgun, bolt action rifles he had access to and instead brought this bushmaster and 10 30 round magazines taped together killing 25 people in 5 minutes.

He probably did not want to inflict too much carnage

[TheRedComet]

Self defense, hunting mid size game, taking care of varmints, target shooting, etc. Like any other firearm in its class and in its caliber. It’s intended use case is at the discretion of the user.

If we take off the black plastic furniture and the ACOG sight and replace it with wood furniture and a regular scope would that make it acceptable to your sensibilities?

[TheRedComet]

He could have killed just as many with the shot gun and the handgun together in about the same time frame. He could have simply emptied the tube with the shotgun and then switched to the handgun with spare magazines.

He was shooting kids. Defenseless kids. No one was going to oppose him. No one had the capabilities to stop him. So frankly it didn’t really matter which gun he chose to commit his horrendous act with.

[Guntsu]

Can the handgun and shotgun drop 150 rounds under 5 minutes?

There’s a reason Lanza choose this weapon and taped magazines…he was trained to shot

[Ceasar]

@WuWei

Remington are idiots.

I will likely never buy another Remington. They are stupid.

[Oryx]

@Guntsu

Can the handgun and shotgun drop 150 rounds under 5 minutes?

He could have killed more people faster with a homemade bomb.

[Samm]

@kingarthur65

@Samm

What State law did they break?

Connecticut Unfair Trade Practices Act

The same law that was used in the same state to sue Purdue.

Theoretically, the same AG could file the same complaint on behalf of the citizens of Connecticut and many other states have similar laws on their books. Other states and localities used similar state laws to file complaints against Purdue.

What did they do that allegedly broke that law?

[Samm]

@Oryx

@Samm

How is that a screw up? They have no money, why rack up more unpaid legal fees?

We’re all speculating here since we don’t know yet what they found in discovery. But Remington is not responsible for the Sandy Hook massacre and they should have fought it in court. Yes, they would have racked up legal bills, but not $73 million worth.

As they say, you can’t get blood from a turnip.

[Samm]

@Guntsu

I guess they are just pea shooters…

Must be why Lanza skipped the hand guns, shotgun, bolt action rifles he had access to and instead brought this bushmaster and 10 30 round magazines taped together killing 25 people in 5 minutes.

He probably did not want to inflict too much carnage

Still not a combat weapon.

What do you think the carnage might have been if he had used a shotgun?

[Samm]

@Guntsu

Can the handgun and shotgun drop 150 rounds under 5 minutes?

There’s a reason Lanza choose this weapon and taped magazines…he was trained to shot

Gotta say, you have a vivid imagination.

“Taped magazines” (Is that an exclusive Remington thing?)
“trained to shoot”

At least you have learned to not say “clips.”.

[Oryx]

@Samm

As they say, you can’t get blood from a turnip.

The court wouldn’t approve the settlement if they couldn’t pay.

[kingarthur65]

@Samm

What did they do that allegedly broke that law?

I posted the complaint earlier in this thread. That could give you an idea of what they were alleging.

The plaintiffs have the ability to post the discovery document. I suspect they will create a narrative that tells their side and post some of that.

I found about 700 pages of discovery posted on the court website earlier. I can post the link here later if you want to review it.

[kingarthur65]

@Samm

As they say, you can’t get blood from a turnip

The settlement will be almost entirely paid by insurance companies.
Since Remington is in bankruptcy, the decision to settle was most likely made by the trustees.

[Samm]

@Oryx

@Samm

As they say, you can’t get blood from a turnip.

The court wouldn’t approve the settlement if they couldn’t pay.

Are you sure about that? They are in bankruptcy. The judge would have to put their claim above those of everybody else who was in line for pennies on the dollar before them. By what authority can a Judge do that?

[Samm]

@kingarthur65

I posted the complaint earlier in this thread. That could give you an idea of what they were alleging.

Which post number?

[Samm]

@kingarthur65

@Samm

As they say, you can’t get blood from a turnip

The settlement will be almost entirely paid by insurance companies.
Since Remington is in bankruptcy, the decision to settle was most likely made by the trustees.

I find it very hard to believe that any gun manufacturer would have insurance of that magnitude to cover them for something that is so outlandish that it was not a foreseeable risk.

[Oryx]

@Samm

Are you sure about that? They are in bankruptcy. The judge would have to put their claim above those of everybody else who was in line for pennies on the dollar before them. By what authority can a Judge do that?

Sandy Hook families hope the Remington settlement prompts change in the gun...

From the article:

The settlement still needs a judge’s approval to be final.

[Samm]

Thanks.

But …

“… the Connecticut families argued the way Remington marketed the gun used in the killings violated that state’s consumer law and prioritized profits over public safety.” does not tell me in what way the law was broken.

And …

“Remington’s four insurers have all agreed to pay the full amount of coverage available, which is the $73 million total.” suggests that the settlement was made by the insurance companies, not by Remington. The article reiterates that all of Reminton’s assets have been sold off … they have no skin left to be in the game.