Sanders cratering poll numbers

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-03-18T12:01:06.197Z

westaussie:

The Democrats in Florida, Illinois and Arizona had a choice to vote for Gabbard on Tuesday of this week. What percentage of those who voted chose to vote for Gabbard?

Do you think the actual Democrat voters would vote for Gabbard in the presidential election this year?

I am fascinated by your “driven the party so far to the left” comment. Would you like to list Joe Biden’s top 5 most left policies he is advocating?

Biden has been going hard left- Medicare for all, immigrations, guns…

westaussie · 2020-03-18T12:02:53.518Z

None of that is hard left.

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-03-18T12:11:29.482Z

westaussie:

None of that is hard left.

The measures he wants to implement are hard left.

westaussie · 2020-03-18T12:23:09.909Z

Australia has universal health care; a national disability insurance scheme; sensible gun laws. We are not a left of centre country.

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-03-18T12:33:52.838Z

westaussie:

Australia has universal health care; a national disability insurance scheme; sensible gun laws. We are not a left of centre country.

Certainly sounds like you are. And Biden wants to shut gun manufacturers down.

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-03-18T12:38:31.466Z

And those are leftist positions… if you’re not a left country as you say, on what issues are you on the right?

westaussie · 2020-03-18T12:48:09.783Z

I am left of centre so I don’t. Since the Second World War the right of centre Liberal Party and Country Party (now known as the National Party) were in a coalition government for significantly longer than the centre-left Labor Party.

Samm · 2020-03-19T00:50:53.433Z

Mountain_Soldier:

westaussie:

The Democrats in Florida, Illinois and Arizona had a choice to vote for Gabbard on Tuesday of this week. What percentage of those who voted chose to vote for Gabbard?

Do you think the actual Democrat voters would vote for Gabbard in the presidential election this year?

I am fascinated by your “driven the party so far to the left” comment. Would you like to list Joe Biden’s top 5 most left policies he is advocating?

Biden has been going hard left- Medicare for all, immigrations, guns…

That’s called pandering. He doesn’t really mean it.

Samm · 2020-03-19T00:51:35.488Z

westaussie:

None of that is hard left.

Of course not … not to you.

Samm · 2020-03-19T00:53:21.221Z

westaussie:

Australia has universal health care; a national disability insurance scheme; sensible gun laws. We are not a left of centre country.

Its all relative. Your country is far left of center compared to the US. The sad thing is, that your country is so far left that you think you are a moderate.

Samm · 2020-03-19T00:55:38.081Z

westaussie:

I am left of centre so I don’t. Since the Second World War the right of centre Liberal Party and Country Party (now known as the National Party) were in a coalition government for significantly longer than the centre-left Labor Party.

Classic evasion. The question was: “if you’re not a left country as you say, on what issues are you on the right?”

SixFoot · 2020-03-19T00:56:03.993Z

Bernie-who?

Mountain_Soldier · 2020-03-19T00:56:37.352Z

SixFoot:

Bernie-who?

Madoff?

WolfyT · 2020-03-19T01:09:20.880Z

I don’t think most of his supporters care. The young didn’t live through red scares.

Anyway, the Sanders Cuba comments and controversy is mostly just fodder for the attention deficit disorder soundbite outrage crowd.

westaussie · 2020-03-19T09:37:24.387Z

My country has had 25+ years of annual economic growth. We will be challenged to maintain that growth during the coronavirus crisis. We are not a left of centre country; the USA is very much a right of centre country. During the GFC we did not have a recession because we had a centre-left Labor Party federal government.

I have said I am left of centre. Like where I am domiciled I have not hidden that I am left of centre.

Samm · 2020-03-19T09:48:00.950Z

That’s why I said it’s all relative.

westaussie · 2020-03-19T09:50:04.997Z

But I am correct.

Samm · 2020-03-19T09:50:47.140Z

Relatively speaking. And so am I.

TheRedComet · 2020-03-19T11:27:31.370Z

That’s not entirely fair. We aren’t all like that.

I work two jobs, over 60 hours per week. I don’t expect anything from anyone.

In fairness, though, I was raised by my grandparents who were both born in the 40s. So I have some old school values and work ethic.

WuWei · 2020-03-19T12:56:02.791Z

TheRedComet:

That’s not entirely fair. We aren’t all like that.

I work two jobs, over 60 hours per week. I don’t expect anything from anyone.

In fairness, though, I was raised by my grandparents who were both born in the 40s. So I have some old school values and work ethic.

Generation