Sanders booted by ... Now it makes sense

WildRose · 2018-06-28T05:15:28.882Z

dantes:

That’s fine. If you want to focus on mom’s and their kids instead of violent criminals and drug cartels just say so.

I think any rational person would focus on violent criminals.

They aren’t mutually exclusive. Secure the damned border once and for all and we can then easily take care of both with far fewer resources necessary for either.

WildRose · 2018-06-28T05:20:04.267Z

How exactly is the UE rate calculated?

MarkyS · 2018-06-28T05:42:53.934Z

Lots of Americans have stopped looking for work. They are not counted in the unemployment rate. They cannot get work with their skill level because illegals are getting it and at a lower rate of pay,

There is simply NO WAY that we can have millions of low-skilled workers come into the country WITHOUT it hurting the low skilled workers we already have living here. It defies logic to say otherwise.

That is why a surprisingly HIGH number of minorities, along with whites are opposed to illegal immigration.

M

kingarthur65 · 2018-06-28T05:44:13.700Z

BornAgainChristian:

The left always accuses others what they are guilty doing. Like that “separated child crying” before a giant Trump on Time, which picture became viral in the deranged community even though it was well reported the entire is a fake.

Check the health inspection results for he Red Hen. Then compare it to the health inspections at Mar a Lago.
I think you’ll find that Trump is accusing the Red Hen of what Mar a Lago is guilty of.

Fox News

Mar-a-Lago restaurants slapped with 15 health code violations

Unsafe seafood.

kingarthur65 · 2018-06-28T05:54:17.883Z

MarkyS:

And Donald Trump is the most gay-friendly Republican president ever. He hasn’t called for or passed a SINGLE anti-gay law or EO that I’m aware of.

Trump has been quoted as being against gay marriage. Here is a transcript from an interview with Chris Wallace:
WALLACE: But, Mr. Trump, let’s take one issue. You say now that the Supreme Court has ruled that same-sex marriage is the law of the land and that any politician who talks about wanting to amend the Constitution is just playing politics. Are you saying it’s time to move on?

TRUMP: No, I’m saying this. It has been ruled up. It has been there. If I’m a, you know, if I’m elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things.

BornAgainChristian · 2018-06-28T06:20:16.454Z

kingarthur65:

BornAgainChristian:

The left always accuses others what they are guilty doing. Like that “separated child crying” before a giant Trump on Time, which picture became viral in the deranged community even though it was well reported the entire is a fake.

Check the health inspection results for he Red Hen. Then compare it to the health inspections at Mar a Lago.
I think you’ll find that Trump is accusing the Red Hen of what Mar a Lago is guilty of.
Mar-a-Lago restaurants slapped with 15 health code violations | Fox News

Confirmation bias. You see proof Trump is precisely who you think he is. I look at the same precise fact and see one of his properties isn’t being managed according to his standards.

If we looked up what happened after the code violations, if they were fixed or became worse, it still would reflect on the management of Mar a Lago, not Trump personally.

But you can’t concede that point because its not about facts. You decided to hate Trump and only look for facts supporting that decision. Facts that contradict it, mean nothing to you if you see them at all. Good chance, you do not.

MarkyS · 2018-06-28T06:34:52.071Z

AGAIN, He hasn’t called for or passed a SINGLE anti-gay law or EO that I’m aware of. Are YOU aware of any?

He is ambivalent about gay marriage as are most Americans. But he has never said “We have to overturn gay marriage” or anything REMOTELY like that. NEVER.

It just isn’t really on his radar.

M

reflechissez · 2018-06-28T06:50:26.254Z

MarkyS:

They cannot get work with their skill level because illegals are getting it and at a lower rate of pay,

What is your source for this?

BornAgainChristian · 2018-06-28T08:25:55.341Z

MarkyS:

AGAIN, He hasn’t called for or passed a SINGLE anti-gay law or EO that I’m aware of. Are YOU aware of any?

He is ambivalent about gay marriage as are most Americans. But he has never said “We have to overturn gay marriage” or anything REMOTELY like that. NEVER.

It just isn’t really on his radar.

M

I agree, he’s moved on. When Christianity was just beginning, the city of Corinth had temples dedicated to homosexual sex. The NT doesn’t demand they close, or even preach against them. It does insist Christians repent of that lifestyle, just like they must repent of drunkenness or adultery.

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor. 6:9-11 NKJ)

Illegal_Alien · 2018-06-28T10:05:59.633Z

kingarthur65:

MarkyS:

And Donald Trump is the most gay-friendly Republican president ever. He hasn’t called for or passed a SINGLE anti-gay law or EO that I’m aware of.

Trump has been quoted as being against gay marriage. Here is a transcript from an interview with Chris Wallace:
WALLACE: But, Mr. Trump, let’s take one issue. You say now that the Supreme Court has ruled that same-sex marriage is the law of the land and that any politician who talks about wanting to amend the Constitution is just playing politics. Are you saying it’s time to move on?

TRUMP: No, I’m saying this. It has been ruled up. It has been there. If I’m a, you know, if I’m elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things.

Funny Bill Clinton, Obama and Hillary were all against same Sex Marriage but you were ok that they changed their minds or did nothing about it.

dantes · 2018-06-28T10:50:31.487Z

Irrelevant.

Illegal_Alien · 2018-06-28T11:33:43.905Z

Its not irrelevant because just as Trump has made no policy’s for or against the LGBTQ community. the other past Presidents didn’t do much either.
I don’t believe even if Trump puts 2 more conservative judges on the Supreme Court it isn’t going to change Same Sex Marriages or Abortion.

dantes · 2018-06-28T11:37:03.882Z

His stated intent is to appoint judges who will rule against it. What Trump says is and always will be relevant. If you choose to not “believe” it is irrelevant.

Here’s a primer on his policies:

POLITICO

Trump administration dismantles LGBT-friendly policies

Despite Trump’s promise to defend LGBT rights, his health agency has blocked efforts to combat discrimination.

Illegal_Alien · 2018-06-28T12:00:04.221Z

Shrugs,
I would like to see the Policy’s be rolled back because I believe EVERYONE should be treated as Equals and we shouldn’t have policy’s put in place like this. If we want this stuff to stick like this policy then Congress should do its job and make them laws. which is how i see Trump removing many of these policy’s and EO.

dantes · 2018-06-28T12:10:32.495Z

Everyone should be treated like equals. That’s why we have these policies, for example banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identification for Medicare providers.

If you think the Trump administration is removing these regulations because they think they’re out of his authority then please provide proof of such otherwise you’re just making it up as you go along to rationalize that which you said wasn’t happening.

Illegal_Alien · 2018-06-28T12:27:38.663Z

You have no proof that they aren’t doing what i am rationalizing.
He has removed Several Policy things and told Congress to do its Job.
Daca was an example of him doing as i rationalized.

dantes · 2018-06-28T12:31:14.374Z

Cool. At first you didn’t think they were doing it. When shown you were wrong you quickly invented without any evidence a reason you were okay with it.

As long as we both agree in this, then I’m fine.

Illegal_Alien · 2018-06-28T12:41:10.969Z

I showed you proof.
Daca Policy was pulled away and Trump Said this to members of congress and the senate:

“A clean DACA bill, to me, is a DACA bill where we take care of the 800,000 people,” he said. “We take care of them and we also take care of security. That’s very important.”

So again my rationalization can hold that I believe he is pushing things back on congress to actually make laws about and not just presidential policy that can be removed with each president.

dantes · 2018-06-28T12:43:55.196Z

That’s not proof of anything. He specifically stated that he felt DACA was unconstitutional and he’s probably right. No one that I’ve seen has suggested all of the LGBT policies are unconstitutional. You’re applying one rational to a totally different policy is baseless.

Illegal_Alien · 2018-06-28T12:51:51.994Z

dantes:

That’s not proof of anything. He specifically stated that he felt DACA was unconstitutional and he’s probably right. No one that I’ve seen has suggested all of the LGBT policies are unconstitutional. You’re applying one rational to a totally different policy is baseless.

No I am applying that he is removing Policy’s that he believes should be made laws by the Congress if people actually want them.

Do you disagree that Congress should make that POLICY a law to prevent a president from changing that policy or revoking it?

I see Trump telling Congress to do its Job. He has done this several times.