San Francisco Falls Into The Abyss

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@e7alr

Tell the people and companies leaving that it’s a fantasy. I suspect they are having a hard time seeing the magnificent robes the city is draped in.

I don’t have to tell it to anyone, because I am one of those people. I left the Bay area 5 or so years ago, to go to law school.

But I’d move back in a heartbeat, if it made financial or professional sense. There’s almost nowhere I’d rather live - as blasphemous as that is for me to say as a New Yorker.

[e7alr]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@e7alr

Tell the people and companies leaving that it’s a fantasy. I suspect they are having a hard time seeing the magnificent robes the city is draped in.

I don’t have to tell it to anyone, because I am one of those people. I left the Bay area 5 or so years ago, to go to law school.

But I’d move back in a heartbeat, if it made financial or professional sense. There’s almost nowhere I’d rather live - as blasphemous as that is for me to say as a New Yorker.

Leaving because you got into a law school somewhere else is hardly why the people and companies fleeing SF are leaving. But I do see how a Bay Area transplant to NYC could find SF appealing.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@e7alr

Leaving because you got into a law school somewhere else is hardly why the people and companies fleeing SF are leaving. But I do see how a Bay Area transplant to NYC could find SF appealing.

Other way around, actually. Born and raised in Brooklyn. I didn’t move to the Bay until the begining of 2011.

What makes you think you know why “people and companies” are leaving SF?

[e7alr]

I take their word for why they are leaving.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@e7alr

I take their word for why they are leaving.

Who’s word are you taking?

[fallenturtle]

@e7alr

Was there an unchallenged open air drug market in the Tenderloin District in the past?

The Tenderloin has always been seedy… that there is a open air drug market there doesn’t mean the bad areas have gotten bigger… just that the bad areas are still bad.

@e7alr

Were there vast homeless encampments in the past? Did drug paraphernalia and human waste litter the streets gutters and walk ways of the district?

Again, this stuff is all mostly concentrated in the same downtown Tenderloin area.

Bad areas are still bad… were looking for evidence that they have grown. And you have to also factor in the areas that are now nicer.

@e7alr

Sure there are elite enclaves, with walls, gates and lots of security. The place has a pre-French Revolution feel to it.

Not really. There are few gated communities in SF. There are tons of places with big expensive homes where you can walk right up to the front door.

[WuWei]

No? Where does my evidence lead?

[fallenturtle]

That its expensive to live here. A lot of the exodus was during covid when lots of people lost their jobs and/or started working from home. The homeless population has even dropped (probably also thanks to covid) since its height in 2019. I haven’t heard anyone use illegal aliens as the reason they are leaving. I’m not aware of any areas that are considered bad because of illegal aliens.

[Orygun]

People are leaving expensive areas…because they are expensive. Young folks cant make a stake in places like San Francisco unless they inherit family money/housing, or they are paid exceedingly well.

We are likely to see an ongoing exodus of younger folks moving from expensive cities to cheaper places to live such as…red states.

[STODR]

A good breakdown of who are and who are not leaving and why.

44% of San Francisco Voters Plan to Leave the City, SF Standard Poll Finds

[WuWei]

Quite a story.

[Samm]

Not in their Headquarters.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

Nonsense. That the good parts have shrunk is not in contention, and since SF is the same area as it has always been, that means the bad parts have grown. Simple math.

The idea that the good parts have shrunk and the bad parts have grown is preciously whats in contention.

Not according to the math. Of course, if you believe precise solutions in math are racist, I can see why you might disagree.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

I’m perpetuating the point that only you care? Okay.

The only thing you are perpetuating is your ■■■■■■■■■

And all of this simply because I made a quip about homeless people not ■■■■■■■■ on the street because they’d get hit by a car.

You were pawned and now you’re trying to weasel out of it by claiming you were joking. How ■■■■■■■ pathetic. You never know when to quit … even when handed the opportunity before making too much of a fool of yourself.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

Nonsense. That the good parts have shrunk is not in contention, and since SF is the same area as it has always been, that means the bad parts have grown. Simple math.

The idea that the good parts have shrunk and the bad parts have grown is preciously whats in contention.

Not according to the math. Of course, if you believe precise solutions in math are racist, I can see why you might disagree.

Which bad parts have grown?

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

You were pawned

Are you trying to say “pwned”?

@Samm

and now you’re trying to weasel out of it by claiming you were joking.

Did you miss the winky face?

@Samm

How ■■■■■■■ pathetic. You never know when to quit … even when handed the opportunity before making too much of a fool of yourself.

Cringe.

[Samm]

How old are you? Did you spend any time in San Francisco as an adult in the sixties and/or seventies?

My parents lived in San Francisco in the thirties. They both told me they were aghast at the deterioration that they saw in the seventies at a time when I thought the city was great. In the mid-seventies, my dad even got picked up by police one evening as he strolled his old neighborhood in Soma to “rescue” him and give him a ride back to a safe part of town. They told him they couldn’t believe he got so far without being mugged.

[Samm]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@PurpnGold

It’s like none of these conservatives comment have spent any amount of time in SF. The bad “blocks” are tiny compared to the greater SF.

Even the bad blocks aren’t that bad. And the homes are still 1 million +

San Francisco has always been a kinda dirty city. That’s part of it’s appeal. I remember cons wringing their hands and clutching their pearls about San Francisco and the Bay back when I lived there a decade ago.

Maybe in your lifetime …

Ten years is nothing. Go back 50.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

Nonsense. That the good parts have shrunk is not in contention, and since SF is the same area as it has always been, that means the bad parts have grown. Simple math.

The idea that the good parts have shrunk and the bad parts have grown is preciously whats in contention.

Not according to the math. Of course, if you believe precise solutions in math are racist, I can see why you might disagree.

Which bad parts have grown?

The horse is dead. Quit beating it.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

You were pawned

Are you trying to say “pwned”?

@Samm

and now you’re trying to weasel out of it by claiming you were joking.

Did you miss the winky face?

@Samm

How ■■■■■■■ pathetic. You never know when to quit … even when handed the opportunity before making too much of a fool of yourself.

Cringe.

^^^ Troll.