San Francisco Falls Into The Abyss

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

You asked who the hell cares about differentiating between the sidewalk and the street. I answered.

Who cares?

At this point I think just you.

Yet here you are perpetuating the point.

I’m perpetuating the point that only you care? Okay.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

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@Samm

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@Samm

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@Samm

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@Samm

Yeah, there are probably still some good parts of SF, but the area of the parts to avoid have grown considerably and encroached heavily on areas that were great forty years ago.

Example?

You’re the expert, you tell me. I merely acknowledged that there may still be some good places left; I have no idea specifically where they may be.

“May still be”? You sounded a lot more certain before.

Are you having trouble understanding English? The words “probably still are” and “may be” Are the same thing.

So … You tell me if there are and if so, where they are. You’re the expert.

Ah I see… I’m not asking about the good parts, those are easy to find… I’m asking you about the “area of the parts to avoid have grown considerably and encroached heavily on areas that were great forty years ago” bit.

Uh … the parts that aren’t good.

Yes, you said they’ve grown. What are you basing that claim off of?

It’s simple math. When the good parts get smaller the bad parts get bigger.

Which you also haven’t demonstrated. In fact the good parts might have actually gotten bigger since the 1980s considering the removal of the Embarcadero Freeway being torn down and the Fairy Building being restored. And they just recently opened new park: https://www.sftravel.com/article/explore-san-franciscos-newest-park-presidio-tunnel-tops

Nonsense. That the good parts have shrunk is not in contention, and since SF is the same area as it has always been, that means the bad parts have grown. Simple math.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

I’m perpetuating the point that only you care? Okay.

The only thing you are perpetuating is your ■■■■■■■■■

Question … Where do street walkers and street people (the homeless) hang out?

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@PurpnGold

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@PurpnGold

@WuWei

What is produced in San Francisco?

Google search, Android, iPhones, Macs, iPads, software, wine, well educated people, great food…

Silicon Valley is not in San Francisco.

Yes it is. It’s the entire Bay Area.

No … It is NOT.

Should be more clear… SF is a part of SCV.

All of those companies I listed have primary offices in San Francisco.

As has been noted several times, the HQ offices manage, they don’t produce.

They all produce software. In SF.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

Nonsense. That the good parts have shrunk is not in contention, and since SF is the same area as it has always been, that means the bad parts have grown. Simple math.

The idea that the good parts have shrunk and the bad parts have grown is preciously whats in contention.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

I’m perpetuating the point that only you care? Okay.

The only thing you are perpetuating is your ■■■■■■■■■

And all of this simply because I made a quip about homeless people not ■■■■■■■■ on the street because they’d get hit by a car.

[SixFoot]

@Rurudyne

People don’t think of Missouri when they thing of the big one … but maybe they should.

Although, people in Missouri are well aware that the largest Earthquake(s) to ever happen in the United States was right here, in a land strewn with sinkholes and hollow limestone bedrock.

It’s not what’s above you that you have to worry about, it’s what’s below.

[WuWei]

Not at all. The evidence is all to the contrary.

[e7alr]

Lovely place, over run by homeless encampments and crime, with the problem growing as their policies encourage both. So rich and well managed that their tax base is fleeing and they are looking at budget deficits in the hundreds pf millions, year after year, going forward. Citizens, and businesses (large and small) are voting their disapproval with their feet. And since the “elites” in charge won’t change their policies, it will continue to spiral downward, more taxes, followed by more economic flight.

[fallenturtle]

Great, maybe you can pick up the ball Samm dropped and provide some.

[WuWei]

The exodus
Is the homeless population increasing or decreasing
Sanctuary for illegals

[fallenturtle]

None of that proves that the bad areas have increased.

[e7alr]

@fallenturtle

None of that proves that the bad areas have increased.

Was there an unchallenged open air drug market in the Tinderloin District in the past? Were there vast homeless encampments in the past? Did drug paraphernalia and human waste litter the streets gutters and walk ways of the district? Sure there are elite enclaves, with walls, gates and lots of security. The place has a pre-French Revolution feel to it.

[STODR]

My company restricted us to very few places a few years ago because we had so many car break ins. We had to change the hotels we stayed in also. We stopped all overnights in Oakland and severely curtailed the ones in SF.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@e7alr

Was there an unchallenged open air drug market in the Tinderloin District in the past?

Yes.

@e7alr

Were there vast homeless encampments in the past?

Yes.

@e7alr

Did drug paraphernalia and human waste litter the streets gutters and walk ways of the district?

In the Tenderloin? Yes.

@e7alr

Sure there are elite enclaves, with walls, gates and lots of security. The place has a pre-French Revolution feel to it.

This is a fantasy. You understand that, right?

[PurpnGold]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@e7alr

Was there an unchallenged open air drug market in the Tinderloin District in the past?

Yes.

@e7alr

Were there vast homeless encampments in the past?

Yes.

@e7alr

Did drug paraphernalia and human waste litter the streets gutters and walk ways of the district?

In the Tenderloin? Yes.

@e7alr

Sure there are elite enclaves, with walls, gates and lots of security. The place has a pre-French Revolution feel to it.

This is a fantasy. You understand that, right?

It’s like none of these conservatives comment have spent any amount of time in SF. The bad “blocks” are tiny compared to the greater SF.

Even the bad blocks aren’t that bad. And the homes are still 1 million +

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@PurpnGold

It’s like none of these conservatives comment have spent any amount of time in SF. The bad “blocks” are tiny compared to the greater SF.

Even the bad blocks aren’t that bad. And the homes are still 1 million +

San Francisco has always been a kinda dirty city. That’s part of it’s appeal. I remember cons wringing their hands and clutching their pearls about San Francisco and the Bay back when I lived there a decade ago.

[e7alr]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@e7alr

Was there an unchallenged open air drug market in the Tinderloin District in the past?

Yes.

@e7alr

Were there vast homeless encampments in the past?

Yes.

@e7alr

Did drug paraphernalia and human waste litter the streets gutters and walk ways of the district?

In the Tenderloin? Yes.

@e7alr

Sure there are elite enclaves, with walls, gates and lots of security. The place has a pre-French Revolution feel to it.

This is a fantasy. You understand that, right?

Tell the people and companies leaving that it’s a fantasy. I suspect they are having a hard time seeing the magnificent robes the city is draped in.

[Conservative_frk]

I had a much different experience in the past in San Francisco. Being from Santa Cruz , we regularly went into the city. I always thought it was much cleaner than any other big city I had been to. My brother lived in SF until just a few years ago and it has gone down hill a lot just since then.

[STODR]

I used to love going there. Just too many things happened there to others in our company to ignore. Lots of great food though. We ended always overnighting in Napa instead or even San Jose.