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I’ll concede that point.

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Well geez man even the special effects of Star Trek V are convincing on LSD.

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These had no special effects, they were just disgusting. Cronenberg made a few films with torture porn. If that is going to go mainstream I don’t need to see it.

David Lynch made Blue Velvet but that was a film masterpiece, but movies today are made to make money for people who crave disgusting.

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Every execution was a form of torture porn in Seven.

The fact that it was psychosexual is irrelevant to whether what is presented is torture porn

I get the distaste for the violence of the movie. And the violence itself somewhat for violence sake and there are other massive issues but calling the reviews fake because the movie made you ick is silly.

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These movies didn’t make me sick, the movies are sick. They need reviling as disgusting trash. I know for a fact their rating has been faked. I am disgusted by the state of “entertainment”

Seven was grisly, but overall was a police procedural with other qualities Some people are so sick, they get off on depravity. Some filmmakers, get off on making money off sick, disturbed people. It’s getting worse.

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I’m not a fan of torture porn horror either. I think it really revved up with all the Saw movies, Hostel, Wrong Turn, back in the early 2000’s.

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I hated the Saw franchise and the idiotic centipede man etc. that’s all gross and unnecessary but i think there is an over reaction to all violence in horror that’s happening in this discussion. Based in part on disliking modern horror

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Yeah probably. Kinda seems like an old Siskel and Ebert reaction of Friday the 13th in here haha.

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Interesting discussion. Extreme horror is becoming more popular. I read extreme horror books but have no desire to watch a torture porn horror movie.

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I was curious about “In a Violent Nature”, but on Youtube there is a clip that shows all the killings. It’s brutal to the point of being a parody. No thanks.

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A lot of them don’t have an interesting enough story and premise to back them up.

I always think back to the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It’s a good movie not because of horror or violent elements, but because it’s a genuinely interesting story.

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Yeah, that’s one of my faves and does have a decent plot. The cinematography, atmosphere, and score make that one a masterpiece as well. I watch that one a couple times a year. Tobe Hooper peaked with that one for sure.

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Human centipede was an insane concept that was unfortunately brought to life. I heard about it, but never watched it.

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I avoided the Saw movies but finally watched one. Well, I didn’t finish it. That was too much for me.

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I always thought they were dull. That level of violence is only good if there is a good story to carry it. Like FEAR on PC had crazy levels of violence and psychological torture but I enjoyed that game because it had an interesting story to carry it.

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For fun, see “Strange Darling” and “Substance.” Is there anything good about these, besides being attempts at turning sick stories into artsy madness hidden behind the claim of “Dark Humor.” It’s not just about disliking them and it’s not about dark humor. They are both perverse and now Mainstream.

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I brought up strange darling in this thread. It is violent and sometimes unnecessarily so. Sometimes for violence sake.

There is little difference in the violence of Natural Born Killers and strange darling. It’s been mainstream for 30 plus years.

I think you disliked the movie and i have had that with several movies. I totally get it. But it’s part of the mainstream for decades.

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I loved Natural Born Killers–or “Caligula” which I hated, but they weren’t Mainstream–they were sick but original. Now copycat idiots want to wallow in sickness to degrade anything they see.

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That’s actually somewhat of a fair point. For its time natural born killers was extremely violent.

And there was oodles of torture porn in it.

Also and i will get a lot of hell for this but Tarantino is an over rated cult hit director

He has made classics but for the post part he is formulaic. And most importantly All of this movies are extrenely violent and almost all sexually violent. So i am not sure where this distaste for violence is coming from suddenly.

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I have hated many Tarantino movies, for the constant gratuitous violence- even though most his violence is tongue in cheek and geeky. I liked the Nazi movie for the twist and I loved Once upon a time in Hollywood. He redeemed himself with that one. Pulp Fiction was unique and funny at the time. I watched Strange Darling at his theater in Hollywood and there was an unnerving ovation at the end that was repelling.

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