Salems Lot - Max Movie Release

FreeAndClear · 2024-10-07T02:02:30.895Z

rp5x5:

FreeAndClear:

Body horror isn’t horror at all in this case. This was pure violent suspense

Did you hate “Seven?”

No. Grisly is one thing, psychosexual obsession is another. It openly panders to sickos. Silence of the lambs is grisly, but it wasn;t catering to sickos

Every execution was a form of torture porn in Seven.

The fact that it was psychosexual is irrelevant to whether what is presented is torture porn

I get the distaste for the violence of the movie. And the violence itself somewhat for violence sake and there are other massive issues but calling the reviews fake because the movie made you ick is silly.

rp5x5 · 2024-10-07T02:24:00.092Z

FreeAndClear:

rp5x5:

FreeAndClear:

Body horror isn’t horror at all in this case. This was pure violent suspense

Did you hate “Seven?”

No. Grisly is one thing, psychosexual obsession is another. It openly panders to sickos. Silence of the lambs is grisly, but it wasn;t catering to sickos

Every execution was a form of torture porn in Seven.

The fact that it was psychosexual is irrelevant to whether what is presented is torture porn

I get the distaste for the violence of the movie. And the violence itself somewhat for violence sake and there are other massive issues but calling the reviews fake because the movie made you ick is silly.

These movies didn’t make me sick, the movies are sick. They need reviling as disgusting trash. I know for a fact their rating has been faked. I am disgusted by the state of “entertainment”

Seven was grisly, but overall was a police procedural with other qualities Some people are so sick, they get off on depravity. Some filmmakers, get off on making money off sick, disturbed people. It’s getting worse.

Liberty323 · 2024-10-07T03:01:58.766Z

I’m not a fan of torture porn horror either. I think it really revved up with all the Saw movies, Hostel, Wrong Turn, back in the early 2000’s.

FreeAndClear · 2024-10-07T12:17:57.070Z

Liberty323:

I’m not a fan of torture porn horror either. I think it really revved up with all the Saw movies, Hostel, Wrong Turn, back in the early 2000’s.

I hated the Saw franchise and the idiotic centipede man etc. that’s all gross and unnecessary but i think there is an over reaction to all violence in horror that’s happening in this discussion. Based in part on disliking modern horror

Liberty323 · 2024-10-07T12:30:48.026Z

Yeah probably. Kinda seems like an old Siskel and Ebert reaction of Friday the 13th in here haha.

Nemesis · 2024-10-07T14:26:13.333Z

Interesting discussion. Extreme horror is becoming more popular. I read extreme horror books but have no desire to watch a torture porn horror movie.

Liberty323 · 2024-10-07T14:43:06.979Z

I was curious about “In a Violent Nature”, but on Youtube there is a clip that shows all the killings. It’s brutal to the point of being a parody. No thanks.

TheRedComet · 2024-10-07T14:57:37.360Z

A lot of them don’t have an interesting enough story and premise to back them up.

I always think back to the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It’s a good movie not because of horror or violent elements, but because it’s a genuinely interesting story.

Liberty323 · 2024-10-07T15:59:01.948Z

Yeah, that’s one of my faves and does have a decent plot. The cinematography, atmosphere, and score make that one a masterpiece as well. I watch that one a couple times a year. Tobe Hooper peaked with that one for sure.

GWH · 2024-10-07T15:59:11.248Z

Human centipede was an insane concept that was unfortunately brought to life. I heard about it, but never watched it.

LucyLou · 2024-10-07T16:16:07.857Z

I avoided the Saw movies but finally watched one. Well, I didn’t finish it. That was too much for me.

TheRedComet · 2024-10-07T17:18:53.776Z

I always thought they were dull. That level of violence is only good if there is a good story to carry it. Like FEAR on PC had crazy levels of violence and psychological torture but I enjoyed that game because it had an interesting story to carry it.

rp5x5 · 2024-10-08T05:47:55.835Z

FreeAndClear:

Liberty323:

I’m not a fan of torture porn horror either. I think it really revved up with all the Saw movies, Hostel, Wrong Turn, back in the early 2000’s.

I hated the Saw franchise and the idiotic centipede man etc. that’s all gross and unnecessary but i think there is an over reaction to all violence in horror that’s happening in this discussion. Based in part on disliking modern horror

For fun, see “Strange Darling” and “Substance.” Is there anything good about these, besides being attempts at turning sick stories into artsy madness hidden behind the claim of “Dark Humor.” It’s not just about disliking them and it’s not about dark humor. They are both perverse and now Mainstream.

FreeAndClear · 2024-10-08T13:58:24.126Z

rp5x5:

FreeAndClear:

Liberty323:

I’m not a fan of torture porn horror either. I think it really revved up with all the Saw movies, Hostel, Wrong Turn, back in the early 2000’s.

I hated the Saw franchise and the idiotic centipede man etc. that’s all gross and unnecessary but i think there is an over reaction to all violence in horror that’s happening in this discussion. Based in part on disliking modern horror

For fun, see “Strange Darling” and “Substance.” Is there anything good about these, besides being attempts at turning sick stories into artsy madness hidden behind the claim of “Dark Humor.” It’s not just about disliking them and it’s not about dark humor. They are both perverse and now Mainstream.

I brought up strange darling in this thread. It is violent and sometimes unnecessarily so. Sometimes for violence sake.

There is little difference in the violence of Natural Born Killers and strange darling. It’s been mainstream for 30 plus years.

I think you disliked the movie and i have had that with several movies. I totally get it. But it’s part of the mainstream for decades.

rp5x5 · 2024-10-08T15:53:41.732Z

FreeAndClear:

rp5x5:

FreeAndClear:

Liberty323:

I’m not a fan of torture porn horror either. I think it really revved up with all the Saw movies, Hostel, Wrong Turn, back in the early 2000’s.

I hated the Saw franchise and the idiotic centipede man etc. that’s all gross and unnecessary but i think there is an over reaction to all violence in horror that’s happening in this discussion. Based in part on disliking modern horror

For fun, see “Strange Darling” and “Substance.” Is there anything good about these, besides being attempts at turning sick stories into artsy madness hidden behind the claim of “Dark Humor.” It’s not just about disliking them and it’s not about dark humor. They are both perverse and now Mainstream.

I brought up strange darling in this thread. It is violent and sometimes unnecessarily so. Sometimes for violence sake.

There is little difference in the violence of Natural Born Killers and strange darling. It’s been mainstream for 30 plus years.

I think you disliked the movie and i have had that with several movies. I totally get it. But it’s part of the mainstream for decades.

I loved Natural Born Killers–or “Caligula” which I hated, but they weren’t Mainstream–they were sick but original. Now copycat idiots want to wallow in sickness to degrade anything they see.

FreeAndClear · 2024-10-08T16:02:25.958Z

That’s actually somewhat of a fair point. For its time natural born killers was extremely violent.

And there was oodles of torture porn in it.

Also and i will get a lot of hell for this but Tarantino is an over rated cult hit director

He has made classics but for the post part he is formulaic. And most importantly All of this movies are extrenely violent and almost all sexually violent. So i am not sure where this distaste for violence is coming from suddenly.

rp5x5 · 2024-10-08T17:04:38.572Z

FreeAndClear:

That’s actually somewhat of a fair point. For its time natural born killers was extremely violent.

And there was oodles of torture porn in it.

Also and i will get a lot of hell for this but Tarantino is an over rated cult hit director

He has made classics but for the post part he is formulaic. And most importantly All of this movies are extrenely violent and almost all sexually violent. So i am not sure where this distaste for violence is coming from suddenly.

I have hated many Tarantino movies, for the constant gratuitous violence- even though most his violence is tongue in cheek and geeky. I liked the Nazi movie for the twist and I loved Once upon a time in Hollywood. He redeemed himself with that one. Pulp Fiction was unique and funny at the time. I watched Strange Darling at his theater in Hollywood and there was an unnerving ovation at the end that was repelling.

FreeAndClear · 2024-10-08T17:16:14.815Z

There was an ovation? Really? That’s weird

rp5x5 · 2024-10-08T17:24:47.152Z

FreeAndClear:

There was an ovation? Really? That’s weird

I got out of there.

YOSUP · 2024-10-08T17:42:54.079Z

Nemesis:

Not to step on the toes of @travisg but I just watched the newest version of Salems Lot on Max and its not half bad.

Salems Lot was the first horror book I ever read as a teenager and it scared the crap out of me. Genuinely gave me nightmares and is still one of my all time favorite horror novels.

For me I have always thought of Salems Lot as the spiritual sequel to Bram Stokers Dracula. The king of vampires relocates from the old world to the new world and starts to take over/destroy a small town in Maine. If you read the book there is some interesting backstory which makes it apparent that the move to Salems Lot has been planned carefully and has been years in the making.

But back to the new Max version of Salems Lot. This actually is not a bad movie. It moves along at a fast pace if not a bit too fast. Normally I gripe that a movie could benefit from a shorter running time but for once this is a movie that with an extra 30 minutes could have been elevated into something really special as that would have allowed for more character development and a slower burn of the vampire take over. I also really like how its set in 1975 which is the same year as Kings novel was originally published.

Not sure this meets my defintion of horror, its more creepy and disturbing in parts but thats okay.

The abduction and murder of the first vampire victim is very well done and disturbing because you see it from their perspective. I want to avoid spoilers so watch it and you will see what I mean. Plus the kid vampires are done well and not cheesy. In fact the performances by the child actors are really good and feel natural (I find most kids in movies annoying)

There are a Couple of plot holes that made me scratch my head which with a slightly longer running time could have been avoided but its not War and Peace we are watching.

Overall a solid adaptation of Stephen Kings classic novel with great performances from a talented bunch of actors (Bill Sadler, Lewis Pullman, Bill Camp and Mackenzie Leigh).

This is an ideal starter horror movie for your kids that are just entering their teens . Oh and it has a banging soundtrack.

Love how it started with Gordon Lighfoot, and the acting was real good. Disappointed they made Straker a weak caretaker, he has supernatural strength. It felt a bit like Lost Boys, Meets Salems Lot 1981, meets Count Orlok. It’s def a fun watch if you don’t nitpick it through the lense of the original book. Overall well done.