1114

Ha! A very apt description!

1115

One would hope. I don’t put it past Barr though.

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1116

That is fair. Barr is many things, but most of all he is an ideologue who believes in the unitary theory of the Executive. He knows that in order to continue pursuit of this ambition, he needs the DOJ in working order. Any uprising prevents his aims. So I personally do not see him doing it.

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1117

You have more faith than I do. I hope you’re right.

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1118

Are you saying Stone didn’t lie to Congress?

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1119

It is not faith my friend. I just believe I know Bill Barr and what his objectives are. I disagree with them, but he is who he is. His ambitions are greater than Trump. Trump is just a useful vehicle for him to help achieve his long-stated desires.

1120

Too bad Trump can’t hear you say that, lol. He’d be tweeting Barr’s termination.

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1121

Not just Congress. But to the Devin Nunes-led House Intelligence Committee. The same Nunes who turned over the Stone transcripts to Mueller to pursue potential criminal charges for lying to his committee. Or is Nunes part of the Deep State now too? :rofl:

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1122

I know what 3 years is and I know what 9 years is and I know the difference.

1123

Good for you. But that doesn’t encapsulate what transpired. But you are free to believe whatever makes you comfortable of course.

1124

I doubt if Stone cares if he has 50 concurrent sentences if all he has to spend in jail is 3 years.

1125

I didn’t realize you were arguing on behalf of Roger Stone’s feelings. Okay then. I guess you are right.

1126

Those 3 sentences, in that order, do not make sense:

  1. If the judge did a good job (conducted a fair trial and imposed a fair sentence), then Stone doesn’t deserve a pardon at all.
  2. If the trial was unfair then he doesn’t deserve a pardon, he deserves a new trial.
  3. If the sentence was too long, then he might deserve a pardon, but you seem to be okay with the sentence.
  4. And if he does deserve a pardon, and Trump lets him rot for 9 months, then he’s throwing a “good friend”, who remained loyal to the bitter end, under the bus for naked political expediency.

What an ■■■■■■■■

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1127

Yes. I don’t see the point of destroying an old man for doing basically what so many others have done and gotten away with. Giving him a virtual life sentence for political hate is not my idea of justice. Fortunately, the judge agreed.

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1128

Ooohh… you were going great right up to “Barr handled it right.” No, he didn’t. He shouldn’t have handled anything in this instance. Judge Jackson handled it right.

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1129

:roll_eyes:

He is 68. In 9 years (which was never a real possibility) he would be 77. How young are you to believe living to 77 is a near impossibility?

I mean, you’re going to vote for Trump again and if he wins he will be 78 in his final year of office. That’s a year past likely death, right?

1130

Must smear Barr before Durham review is completed.

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1131

That does come across as mixed.

40 months was a good compromise considering that prosecutor was insisting on 7 to 9 even after the dramatic resignations.

The rest depends on the jury bias revelation and ruling.

I don’t like Stone. I can let the process play out.

One thing I liked less than Stone was the absurd way he was taken into custody with CNN and an abuse of force.

1132

What’s the difference between those two things?

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1133

Depending on the Federal facility, Stone could be playing golf for 3 years and if he’s a good boy he might catch conjugal visits privileges.