Jezcoe
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What have I said that was not true?
Jezcoe
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The judge struck down Stoneās request for a new trial over this.
They failed to prove that this juror showed bias in making a decision.
Jezcoe
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Saying that Stone is a āpoliticalā offender does not make it true.
The dude broke the law.
Camp
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Is he a violent offender?
Why is he a threat worthy of incarceration and illegal immigrants are not?
Give him an ankle bracelet and be done with it.
Persecutions are our importation of the 3rd world manifesting in real time.

Jezcoe
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Illegal Immigration has nothing to do with the sentencing guidelines that have been set by Congress.
Good effort though.
The dude was found guilty on Seven Counts
He is not being persecuted.
GWH
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Tomeka Hart just insured an easy appeal or perhaps even a retrial.
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Camp
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You see it is all interconnected.
Trustā¦persecutionā¦corruption.
These are what migrants from Central America are fleeing and at the same time we see in our own system manifesting.
According to a recent study by Vanderbilt University, a majority of Guatemalans, Hondurans and Salvadorans believe that most of their politicians are corrupt.
Citizen distrust, in turn, makes it harder to fight crime and uphold the rule of law. In Central America, so many people are ready to bypass the law to tackle violence that vigilantism and extrajudicial violence have themselves become major causes of violence.
As a result, corruption in Central America has shattered most efforts to build the kinds of criminal justice institutions necessary to support a democratic society.
You are what you eat.

Jezcoe
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The crimes that Roger Stone have been convicted of has nothing to do with MS-13.
Good try though.
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Camp
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I was sad to see own own Saffy buy into such rigid sentencing āguidelines.ā
By the time these appeals are heard, it looks like time served of a year or two will be appropriate.
I think Flynn was an even greater injustice.

Camp
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You are what you eatā¦can be applied to food for the mind.
I did not say Stone was MS-13.
I said political corruption of the Central America style is beginning to manifest in our esteemed democracy.
Go ahead an teach Stone a lesson.

Jezcoe
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You are making the argument that Stone should not be put in jail for his crimes because MS-13 exists.
It makes no sense.
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Camp
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It makes no sense because you are not following the point.
The argument is against onerous sentencingā¦Not about being put in jail at all.
Punishing someone for their political alliance is something that people in Honduras are fleeing and fear MORE than MS 13.
The Judge can alleviate the inequity with a good decision.
We all are what we eat on a micro and a macro scale. What we eat for lunchā¦what we consume for political philosophy.

Jezcoe
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Roger Stone is not being punished for his political alliance.
He is being punished because he broke the law and was convicted on seven counts.
Again. The fact that MS-13 exists has nothing to do with this.
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Camp
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I can see you are locked in and that is fine.
Roger Stone can be a societal menace if you look at him in the right light and at the right time of day and locking him in a cell is the only way good citizens can be safe.
I will wait and see what the judge decides before I get any more involved in this drama.
I will reinforce the point that political persecution is on the rise in our justice system at a level proportional to the influx of Central American migrants. Pelosi tearing up the SOTU was a prominent manifestation of this point.
We are what we eat.

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republicans for teh rule of law has a great ad about stone airing on foxā¦
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Jezcoe
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Calling out a silly argument isnāt being locked in.
The two things that you are talking about have nothing to with each other,
Stone broke the law.
Was convicted on Seven counts.
Why argue that he not go to jail?
Jezcoe
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We arenāt even getting into the idea that friends of the President getting special treatment.
That is the part that is super indefensible.
Smyrna
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Yeah⦠the FBI Director listing numerous laws that were broken involving national security, on national tv but recommending that the person didnāt āintendā to break them, concludes his personal recommendation to the AG, that no indictments should be madeā¦after she met privately with your previous President husbandā¦in a secret meetingā¦that when discoveredā¦refused to recuse themselfā¦and no indictments were madeā¦isnāt āspecial treatmentā in your worldā¦amirite?
How about all those around you recāvg immunityā¦and yetā¦not one indictment was made?
How about the FBI allowing you to decideā¦what information youāll turn over to them for examination?
How about the FBI allowing your to destroy evidence thatās currently under a Congressional subpoena?
You live in la-;la land my friend.
No it wasnāt. As @Safiel clearly pointed out previously. The 7-9 year recommendation was actually less than standard sentencing guidelines for these criminal offense for which he was found guilty by a jury of his peers. And it was certainly nowhere near the maximum of the guidelines, let alone outside of them. Knowledge is power!
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Jezcoe
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Whatabout Whatabout Whatabout.
True or False.
Did Roger Stone Broke the law and was convicted on Seven Counts?