(RINO'S) Republicans for the Rule of Law

WuWei · 2020-05-30T01:52:43.425Z

Bigjohn:

So if I read your post correctly you said Trump couldn’t get elected if he ran as a third party candidate Therefore, if I read your post correctly you maybe intermediating that Mr. Trump only ran as a Republican because he had no chance as a third party candidate so he must be a Republican In Name Only I.e. a RINO

I’ll say it.

hwyflier · 2020-05-30T03:14:20.874Z

Smyrna:

and that’s how long I’ve waited for them to be exposed.

The successful republican strategist who became an NYT best seller with a book called “Everything Trump Touches Dies”…not really trying to hide from exposure.

Ceasar · 2020-05-30T04:29:59.649Z

Oldandtired:

Maybe you need to go back through the years and see how many times these leftist who called themselves conservative caved to the left and gave them what ever they wanted.
Remember the years that the left longs for when everyone got along in DC and compromised. What the left really longs for is all those years the GOP rolled over and gave the left what ever they wanted.
Then these conservatives who were really leftist would run to the people who elected them and say we got you this little token thing there was nothing else we could do. But elect me again and I will work really hard to get you what you want next time.
Maybe the true conservative have gotten tired of the losers who always caved and are now in the process of booting the turn coats out and electing people who will stand up for conservative ideas and not back down. Maybe they want people who will go to the mat for them and not weak losers who take the easy road because the news media might call them a bad name.
There is a change going on in the GOP and the old rhinos need to change or go to the party they really support. We will be a party of bold colors.

Well said!

Smyrna · 2020-05-30T11:18:47.703Z

hwyflier:

The successful republican strategist who became an NYT best seller with a book called “Everything Trump Touches Dies”…not really trying to hide from exposure.

True…IF…you can’t see beyond the mask they wear? I can.

matt1618 · 2020-05-30T12:29:20.848Z

They have principles of supporting Biden who supports doing away with Natural gas, which actually helps global warming. They were ‘prolife’ and support Biden who even wants to enshrine Roe v. Wade, and now supports even Federal funding of killing babies in the womb. Biden wants to legalize all those who boke our laws illegally coming into the country, and make it so 11 to 20 million illegal will become legal, i.e. open borders. The only reason the Democrats want illegals in, is so they can become Democratic voters. These guys pretended to be for voter ID, they support a guy who now say you don’t need to verify who you are. A guy who was in an administration who was the most anti-Israeli ever, they pretend to be for Israel. Military vastly downgraded. You call that ‘principled’ . Now, you are a lefty, I get that you like these people

Trump supports Natural gas which has been a boon for this country and tries to make it available more so European countries are not dependent on Russia. He tried to help coal, though it is tough with the ascendance of Natural gas. He gave weapons to Ukraine to fight Russia, while Obama/Biden gave blankets. He gave his full support for Israel which conservatives support, and was the only one to keep to his promise of moving the capital to Jerusalem. Trump has been the most prolife President ever in all his policies. Trump has pushed for voter ID. He has attempted to be against illegal immigration, but hampered by RINOs like the ones you laud so he couldn’t build a wall even when Republicans had control of both houses, because of these RINO types. Trump has deregulated manty things that freed up the economy. He has promoted religious freedom, supported Little Sisters of the Poor in their attempt to not be forced to provide financing for what they see as mortal sin, birth control, even abortificent birth control. Now it is true, he is trying to get us out of wars that they pushed for under Bush and they didn’t like that. He has built up the military, which Conservatives generally like. Sure he’s been for more government things than Conservatives would generally like, but these ‘principled’ ones would get us way, way more government, and much less freedom under their new hero Biden. He pushed for the tax cut that got through that was conservative. He tried to overturn Obamacare but because of RINOs, and the vindictive jealous that he lost while Trump won McCain, couldn’t even do the skinny Obama repeal. Trump has many more conservative policies than these people who are falling in line for Biden who rejects every single conservative policy. Now you may like these people coming to support people like Biden, I expect you to, you are a liberal, but to pretend these guys who in name are conservatives, but to say they are ‘principled’ is a joke.

TommyLucchese · 2020-05-30T12:32:51.240Z

matt1618:

They have principles of supporting Biden who supports doing away with Natural gas, which actually helps global warming. They were ‘prolife’ and support Biden who even wants to enshrine Roe v. Wade, and now supports even Federal funding of killing babies in the womb. Biden wants to legalize all those who boke our laws illegally coming into the country, and make it so 11 to 20 million illegal will become legal, i.e. open borders. The only reason the Democrats want illegals in, is so they can become Democratic voters. These guys pretended to be for voter ID, they support a guy who now say you don’t need to verify who you are. A guy who was in an administration who was the most anti-Israeli ever, they pretend to be for Israel. Military vastly downgraded. You call that ‘principled’ . Now, you are a lefty, I get that you like these people

Trump supports Natural gas which has been a boon for this country and tries to make it available more so European countries are not dependent on Russia. He tried to help coal, though it is tough with the ascendance of Natural gas. He gave weapons to Ukraine to fight Russia, while Obama/Biden gave blankets. He gave his full support for Israel which conservatives support, and was the only one to keep to his promise of moving the capital to Jerusalem. Trump has been the most prolife President ever in all his policies. Trump has pushed for voter ID. He has attempted to be against illegal immigration, but hampered by RINOs like the ones you laud so he couldn’t build a wall even when Republicans had control of both houses, because of these RINO types. Trump has deregulated manty things that freed up the economy. He has promoted religious freedom, supported Little Sisters of the Poor in their attempt to not be forced to provide financing for what they see as mortal sin, birth control, even abortificent birth control. Now it is true, he is trying to get us out of wars that they pushed for under Bush and they didn’t like that. He has built up the military, which Conservatives generally like. Sure he’s been for more government things than Conservatives would generally like, but these ‘principled’ ones would get us way, way more government, and much less freedom under their new hero Biden. He pushed for the tax cut that got through that was conservative. He tried to overturn Obamacare but because of RINOs, and the vindictive jealous that he lost while Trump won McCain, couldn’t even do the skinny Obama repeal. Trump has many more conservative policies than these people who are falling in line for Biden who rejects every single conservative policy. Now you may like these people coming to support people like Biden, I expect you to, you are a liberal, but to pretend these guys who in name are conservatives, but to say they are ‘principled’ is a joke

Maybe your boyfriend should act like he’s the president of the United States during a crisis, instead of like a petulant child.

If he worked as hard or quickly at literally any of the things you mentioned as he did trying to punk out Twitter because he felt dissed, he’d be cruising to reelection right now.

matt1618 · 2020-05-30T12:52:07.594Z

boyfriend, stop with the insult. I don’t like his personality quirks, sure. I held my nose when I voted for him, but he has attempted to keep to his promises and has tried. However, he is not a dictator and has to get the cooperation of Congress, and Susan Collins/McCain/Mia Love, Paul Ryan types who didn’t work with him on things like illegal immigration in the first term. Democratic opposition the second term. These ‘principled’ Republicans have no business calling themselves Conservatives when they support Biden who has lurched to the left.

Chris · 2020-05-30T13:36:46.326Z

matt1618:

He tried to overturn Obamacare but because of RINOs, and the vindictive jealous that he lost while Trump won McCain, couldn’t even do the skinny Obama repeal. Trump has many more conservative policies than these people who are falling in line for Biden who rejects every single conservative policy.

Trump isn’t a conservative. He is an authoritarian. And as I stated earlier in this thread, If Reagan was alive today, he would be considered a RINO.

Bigjohn · 2020-05-30T14:55:22.821Z

Correct not by any stretch of the imagination is he a conservative

Roxiebelle · 2020-05-30T15:06:10.010Z

Indeed you could say that President Trump is a RINO of a different kind than the usual liberal light cowardly and corrupt DC type of course! One could say he is a rogue RINO!

Roxiebelle · 2020-05-30T15:18:46.526Z

If President Trump was an authoritarian he’d be a Democrat!

And in the day of Reagan the Democrats were not the vicious and seditious authoritarian party they are today. Back then there was a working together relationship across the isle without the need for closet leftism or cowardly capitulation aka RINO.

But if you want to play the history if game: JFKs…ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country…ideology would have gotten him dropped kicked on his rump right out of todays Democrat/Socialist Party.

mobulis · 2020-05-30T15:20:37.734Z

Roxiebelle:

If President Trump was an authoritarian he’d be a Democrat!

And in the day of Reagan the Democrats were not the vicious and seditious authoritarian party they are today. Back then there was a working together relationship across the isle without the need for closet leftism or cowardly capitulation aka RINO.

But if you want to play the history if game: JFKs…ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country…ideology would have gotten him dropped kicked on his rump right out of todays Democrat/Socialist Party.

Except that trump is authoritarian.

Bigjohn · 2020-05-30T15:25:45.942Z

A political chameleon in other words

Oldandtired · 2020-05-30T16:02:39.974Z

Did you ever meet Regan? If not than you really do not even know who the man was.
I campaigned for Regan. Meant the man several times.
Believe me he would be blasting these so called conservatives. He would have let them know that if they wanted to be dem light to move to the side they really belong with.
He believed that conservatives needed to stand together and let our voices be heard. What do you think his bold colors was all about? From talking to him I know what he meant.
Almost every thing you say about Trump was said about Reagan for eight years.
So don’t tell me what Reagan would be considered today by the conservative party.

matt1618 · 2020-05-30T16:21:24.746Z

See post 45 or 46, those are Conservative things that he has promoted. You are liberal I get it, you don’t like it. Those issues that I focused on are conservatives. Authoritarian, you mean like mayors and governors who are trying to make people stay inside not go to Church, doing away with the first amendment, while calling abortion services ‘essential.’ It is Trump who is trying to open churches up. Little Sisters of the poor forced to pay for contraception, abortificents against their will. ACLU trying to make Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. Close down small businesses is authoritarian while selecting beer & liquor stores open. Oh, that is the liberals not Trump doing this stuff. Spying on an incoming Administration, oh, that was Obama spying on Trump. Laughable calling Trump authoritarian while supporting these above things.

Paul_Thomson · 2020-05-30T16:27:21.460Z

Trump is doing major heart surgery on the Republican party to turn them into fighters for truth, the Constitution and equal justice for all. It is great to watch the Republican party rise like a phoenix from the ashes of globalism. Inspiring.

Konssurvative1 · 2020-05-30T16:50:18.821Z

If any of that were true…he would have gotten rid of old phonies like Mitch McConnel by now.

hwyflier · 2020-05-30T17:02:22.451Z

Oldandtired:

Did you ever meet Regan? If not than you really do not even know who the man was.

I have a picture with him taken as a kid at the country club I grew up on/at.

Not only did I not know him as a man, I couldn’t even tell he had Alzheimer’s.

Chris · 2020-05-30T17:57:05.490Z

Trump is an authoritarian. He believes that Article 2 gives him the right to do whatever he wants as president. As President, Trump has gone around Congress to use the power of the purse, and his administration without the authorization of Congress is trying to seize private land to build his wall.

The Hill – 29 May 20

Trump administration accelerates efforts to secure land for border wall: report

The Trump administration is ramping up efforts to secure land along the U.S.-Mexico border for construction of a wall by increasing the pace at which it brings lawsuits against private landowners, …

mobulis · 2020-05-30T19:11:20.756Z

matt1618:

See post 45 or 46, those are Conservative things that he has promoted. You are liberal I get it, you don’t like it. Those issues that I focused on are conservatives. Authoritarian, you mean like mayors and governors who are trying to make people stay inside not go to Church, doing away with the first amendment, while calling abortion services ‘essential.’ It is Trump who is trying to open churches up. Little Sisters of the poor forced to pay for contraception, abortificents against their will. ACLU trying to make Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. Close down small businesses is authoritarian while selecting beer & liquor stores open. Oh, that is the liberals not Trump doing this stuff. Spying on an incoming Administration, oh, that was Obama spying on Trump. Laughable calling Trump authoritarian while supporting these above things.

Nope, he means mayors and governors who are trying to slow the spread of COVID19.