Republicans approve bill to protect same-sex marriage . . . give finger to Constitution and federalism

johnwk2 · 2022-12-10T12:46:05.155Z

According to you, but no!

JayJay · 2022-12-10T12:54:42.555Z

johnwk2:

According to you, but no!

Not according to me.

According to how it works.

DOMA contained mirror language to the Full Faith and Credit clause.

Congress has the power to do that.

It was given that power as a tool to make a united nation out of thirteen disparate colonies.

johnwk2 · 2022-12-10T14:57:59.099Z

No. You are wrong. No state is required to put into practice in their State another state’s policies.

The Full Faith and Credit clause was never intended to, nor does it, delegate a power to Congress to force any state to put into effect and follow another state’s policy making Acts.

As Supreme Court Justice Stanley Reed concluded in Griffin v. McCoach (1941), “A state is not required to enforce a law obnoxious to its policy.”

The Full Faith and Credit Clause does not require a state to substitute another state’s law or policy for its own, which means it does not have to honor something that is specifically against its own law. The issue of licensure is an example of this limitation. SOURCE

Roxiebelle · 2022-12-10T15:20:09.965Z

Let the lawsuits begin. I swear our government seems to be working for the lawyers in this country.

johnwk2 · 2022-12-10T15:46:53.938Z

Roxiebelle:

Let the lawsuits begin. I swear our government seems to be working for the lawyers in this country.

Actually, the lawyers and folks in our federal government, in many cases, work together to subvert both the text of our Constitution and its documented legislative intent which gives context to its text. In this case, they are attempting to use the Full Faith and Credit clause to subvert federalism and our Constitution’s Tenth Amendment, and they assert the clause allows Congress to force one state to adopt and practice another state’s public Acts and legislated policy which is a total absurdity.

Of course, those familiar with the clause know its function has to do with the manner of proving judgments handed down in one state in the courts of another, and nothing to do with requiring one state to adopt and practice another state’s public policies.

One case which sheds light on this is Milwaukee County v. White Co., 296 U.S. 268

The faith and credit required to be given to judgments does not depend on the Constitution alone. Article IV, § 1, not only commands that “full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every other state” but it adds “Congress may, by general laws, prescribe the manner in which such acts, records and proceedings shall be proved and the effect thereof.” And Congress has exercised this power, by Act of May 26, 1790, c. 11, 28 U.S.C. § 687, which provides the manner of proof of judgments of one state in the courts of another, and specifically directs that judgments “shall have such faith and credit given to them in every court within the United States as they have by law or usage in the courts of the State from which they are taken.” .
Such exception as there may be to this all-inclusive command is one which is implied from the nature of our dual system of government, and recognizes that consistently with the full faith and credit clause there may be limits to the extent to which the policy of one state, in many respects sovereign, may be subordinated to the policy of another. That there are exceptions has often been pointed out, Broderick v. Rosner, 294 U.S. 629, 642; Alaska Packers Assn. v. Industrial Accident Comm’n, 294 U.S. 532, 546; Bradford Electric Light Co. v. Clapper, supra, 160; Huntington v. Attrill, 146 U.S. 657, 663; Wisconsin v. Pelican Insurance Co., 127 U.S. 265, 293; and in some instances decided. See Haddock v. Haddock, 201 U.S. 562; Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190; Hood v. McGehee, 237 U.S. 611; Olmsted v. Olmsted, 216 U.S. 386; Fall v. Eastin, 215 U.S. 1.

johnwk2 · 2022-12-10T20:14:26.300Z

Here is a shocking critique of today’s America gone mad!

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JWK

There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with deadly drugs, an inflated currency and the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal populations of other countries. So why is the Biden Administration engaging in these very acts?

Nemesis · 2022-12-11T14:33:40.073Z

Its not really a shocking critique but just an opinion on tick tock reposted on Youtube.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-12-11T14:38:42.827Z

Nemesis:

Its not really a shocking critique but just an opinion on tick tock reposted on Youtube.

Nope. It’s not even new or original.

FreeAndClear · 2022-12-11T15:11:47.167Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Nemesis:

Its not really a shocking critique but just an opinion on tick tock reposted on Youtube.

Nope. It’s not even new or original.

They called themselves dittoheads for a reason. They love repeating the same tropes over and over and making it seem like that makes them the majority because the same opinions are held by some people. Oh don’t forget they are also independent thinkers.

johnwk2 · 2022-12-11T19:30:04.330Z

Nemesis:

Its not really a shocking critique but just an opinion on tick tock reposted on Youtube.

The VIDEO most certainly is shocking because it reflects the truth and our current state of affairs.

JWK

The deadly poison of inflating a nation’s currency is, it allows the population to purchase and consume available goods without having to work to restock those available goods. In the end, there is plenty of paper money, but nothing to buy.

FreeAndClear · 2022-12-11T19:32:07.516Z

This video is a recitation of your opinions. Nothing more nothing less.

“Really nails it”

Nemesis · 2022-12-11T19:57:34.193Z

It just repeats your opinions here. How is that shocking or even add to the discussion?

johnwk2 · 2022-12-11T19:59:06.225Z

FreeAndClear:

This video is a recitation of your opinions.

The opinions expressed in THE VIDEO, regardless of what you pontificate, happen to be spot on and accurate. If they weren’t, I suspect you would have given evidence to the contrary, or perhaps you just fit in the following image:

JWK

We are here today and gone tomorrow, but what is most important is what we do in between, and is what our children will inherit and remember us by.

johnwk2 · 2022-12-12T17:20:00.056Z

The following spineless and enemy of our constitution [Sen. Todd Young] should be more than censured for assisting in the subjugation of our Constitution and federalism.

LGBTQ Nation – 12 Dec 22

Republican senator censured by party for voting for marriage equality bill

The party voted to censure Sen. Todd Young, saying that the same-sex marriage bill will lead to polygamy...

Est. reading time: 2 minutes

JWK

"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law , 1858.

FreeAndClear · 2022-12-12T21:50:43.245Z

Hey at least they didn’t go full bestiality in their censure letter. Somebody out there is going to censure them for not doing so…

FreeAndClear · 2022-12-12T21:51:52.357Z

The video outline numerous opinions that are held by you that have been addressed ad nauseum on these boards. That’s why so it’s easy to just post video and then require rebuttal…. How silly

johnwk2 · 2022-12-12T22:38:20.353Z

I see you are still projecting in order to deflect. In addition, regardless of political party affiliation, every individual who holds a federal office of public trust ought to be more than censured for assisting in the subjugation of our Constitution and federalism. Our forefathers knew how to treat their oppressors:
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JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-12-12T22:46:32.187Z

johnwk2:

ought to be more than censured for assisting in the subjugation of our Constitution

Not that you’re calling for the tarring and feathering of public officials or anything.

Including a picture of tarring and feathering was an oversight. I’m sure.

Also, making random cranks on the internet fussy is no standard for determining if

johnwk2:

the subjugation of our Constitution

has happened.

johnwk2 · 2022-12-13T16:39:49.464Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

johnwk2:

ought to be more than censured for assisting in the subjugation of our Constitution

Not that you’re calling for the tarring and feathering of public officials or anything.

Including a picture of tarring and feathering was an oversight. I’m sure.

Also, making random cranks on the internet fussy is no standard for determining if

johnwk2:

the subjugation of our Constitution

has happened.

Are you OK? Your post indicates a disconnect from rational thought.

JWK

I never thought I would live to see the day when American Citizens would stand idle and allow the United States to be invaded by millions upon millions of foreign nationals without a shot being fired.

Orygun · 2022-12-13T22:28:05.215Z

And there it is…huzzah!

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“Today’s a good day!” declared Biden during a ceremony on the South Lawn of the White House. “A day America takes a vital step toward equality. Toward liberty and justice, not just for some, but for everyone. Everyone! Creating a nation to nation where decency, dignity and love are recognized, honored and protected. And the law recognized that everyone should have the right to answer those questions for themselves, without the government interference.”

Mediaite – 13 Dec 22

‘TODAY’S A GOOD DAY!’: Biden Celebrates Signing Respect For Marriage Act,...

President Joe Biden signed the Respect for Marriage Act into law on Tuesday, codifying federal protections for same-sex and interracial marriages.